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“Failure means you found your edge—that’s where you learn.”
In this episode, Troy sits down with the one and only Gary Cantrell, better known to the trail world as Lazarus Lake. From humble beginnings in Tennessee to building the most notorious events in ultrarunning, Laz has done more than just push limits—he’s redefined them.
What you’ll hear in this episode:
How Laz went from a casual runner to the creator of iconic ultras like the Barkley Marathons and Big’s Backyard Ultra.
The origin story of Barkley and the infamous map, highlighters, and those cryptic course notes.
Why he believes failure is a feature—not a flaw—of a well-designed race.
Thoughts on what makes someone endure, when everyone else taps out.
His philosophy on community, suffering, and why the human spirit shines brightest in darkness.
The ethos behind races that break you down, only to build you back stronger.
Whether you’re a back-of-the-pack grinder or chasing podiums, Laz’s words will hit home. His belief that every runner has untapped reserves of toughness is as brutal as it is uplifting.
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Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
A training app as versatile as you.
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Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
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ultrarunning, Barkley Marathons, Big’s Backyard Ultra, Lazarus Lake, Gary Cantrell, endurance, trail running, failure, mental toughness, race design, Tennessee, Frozen Head, grit, perseverance
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“Kids need to see their parents do hard things — and they need to try a few themselves.”
In this episode, Troy sits down with Dreama Walton — trail runner, mother, community-builder, and founder of Dreama Adventures — whose journey is equal parts inspiring and badass.
Dreama found trail running while living in Germany, unknowingly training for marathons on singletrack. After finishing her first road marathon, she casually signed up for the SwissAlpine 78K, kicking off a long love affair with ultrarunning.
Since then, she’s tackled big races, summited Kilimanjaro, and even got her kids involved — literally. She co-founded COS-TRCK, a youth summer trail running camp in Colorado Springs that introduces kids to the magic of moving on dirt.
We talk about the juggle of motherhood, training, and meaningful work — and how after 17 years in IT, she left her career to follow her purpose. That purpose? Building Dreama Adventures, a guiding business focused on empowering others through outdoor experiences.
Dreama also shares the behind-the-scenes story of Dreama Team, a documentary that captures her life, identity, and the power of doing really hard things — including running ultras as a mom of four.
This convo is packed with inspiration, hard-earned lessons, and love for community.
Dreama’s Links
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Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
A training app as versatile as you.
Start your free trial at https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com/
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trail running, ultra-running, Dreama Walton, Dreama Adventures, COS-TRCK, SwissAlpine, youth trail camp, motherhood and running, Kilimanjaro, Dreama Team film, community, passion
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"I had to prove I wasn’t just another guy chasing Laz for a headline—I had to show up, over and over."
In this episode, Troy sits down with Jered Beasley, journalist, author, and now, the man who got closer to Lazarus Lake than just about anyone. Jered’s new book, Endurance Artist, is part biography, part endurance journey, and full-blown deep dive into the enigmatic world of Laz—the creator of Barkley Marathons and the Backyard Ultra.
Jered shares his own story of burnout, reinvention, and how he found healing through running and storytelling. What started as a curious profile of an oddball race director turned into years of friendship, exploration, and digging up the strange and beautiful layers of one of ultrarunning’s most legendary figures.
In This Episode:
How Jered transitioned from actor to investigative endurance writer
The 5-year journey to earn Lazarus Lake’s trust (and the stories that followed)
A raw look at failure, resilience, and finding peace through pain
Inside the Backyard Ultra and Barkley from a storyteller’s lens
The unseen emotional toll of embedded journalism
Writing a book while feeling like you’re not good enough
Jareds Links:
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Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
A training app as versatile as you. Start your free trial at https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com/
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Jered Beasley, Lazarus Lake, Garry Cantrell, Barkley Marathons, Backyard Ultra, Endurance Artist, ultra running, endurance sports, embedded journalism, failure, resilience, Troy Meadows, MidPacker Pod
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“It’s just a meandering burrito fest… the art of the possible.” - MVD
Trailing Indicators returns with a sharp, funny, and honest catch-up featuring Troy Meadows Corinne Shalvoy and Matt Van Dalsem. Corinne recaps a stacked stretch: crewing at Western States, calling the action at Hardrock, then throwing down at the Ouray 50 where she finished within two minutes of the course record and started eyeing Javelina 100K with a sticky-note reminder of the 8:13 mark.
MVD chimes in from “off-season” purgatory, pledging his hiatus ends at Javelina and launching a spirited riff on the boom in 200-milers, live coverage, and why finish-line dreams can belong to mid-packers too.
Discussion Topics:
Catch up after a long break
What's your go to for logging your training and building your training calendar
Have 200’s hit the tipping point
Corinne’s Links
Shalvoy Running - YouTube Channel
Troy’s Links
MVD Links
Highlights:
Ouray vs Javelina: from big-mountain strength to desert speed, and why pace comparisons in trail are mostly useless.
The Mammoth 200 effect: how livestreams and storytelling are pulling more runners into 200-mile adventures.
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More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
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Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
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Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com/
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trail running tips, ultra running training, endurance running podcast, race-day nutrition, pacing strategy for ultras, hydration strategy, electrolyte balance, fueling for 100K, heat acclimation for runners, uphill hiking power, downhill technique, injury prevention, recovery protocols, strength training for trail runners, RPE-based training, night running skills, sleep strategy for 200 milers, trail shoe selection, hydration packs, mental resilience
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“Sometimes the trail strips everything away—and that’s the gift.”
In this special episode of the MidPacker Pod, the script gets flipped. Host Troy Meadows hands over the mic to his new friend Jon Eisen, the host of the Running with Problems Podcast who guides Troy through a deep and personal look at his year—both on the trail and beyond it.
From the emotional depths of the Dark Divide 100miler to the lessons of coaching and fatherhood, Troy opens up about failure, identity, and why doing hard things matters so much. The conversation goes beyond splits and mileage—this is about finding clarity in the pain cave, understanding when to pull back, and learning when to lean in harder.
Troy shares how the brutal terrain of the Dark Divide wasn’t just a race—it was a reflection of the internal work he’s been doing to grow as an athlete, coach, and human.
In this episode:
The mental and physical crucible that is the Dark Divide
How failure became a launchpad for deeper personal growth
The evolving identity of a coach and runner learning to slow down and listen
Why building community and connection off the trail matters just as much
Reflections on parenting, purpose, and progress
If you’re looking for something that will challenge you—inside and out—check out Dark Divide 100K.
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Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
A training app as versatile as you. Start your free trial at https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com/
Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
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Troy Meadows, John Eisen, Dark Divide 100K, ultra running, coaching, vulnerability, trail running, emotional growth, personal development, failure, redemption, endurance racing, fatherhood
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“Sometimes your crew believes in you more than you believe in yourself—and that’s enough.”
In this episode of the MidPacker Pod, Troy sits down with Emory Atterberry—a trail runner, creative, and co-founder of Hyperlyte Liquid Performance. What started as an idea with his friends turned into a performance nutrition brand powering up some of the gnarliest races out there.
Emory takes us inside his Leadville 100 experience—his first 100-miler—and it’s packed with heart, grit, and some hilarious behind-the-scenes moments. From quad blowouts at mile 38 to a life-changing climb up Powerline in the dark, this race wasn’t just about finishing. It was about confronting pain, embracing vulnerability, and choosing to keep going when everything screamed "stop."
In this episode:
How Emory’s inner drive, shaped by his upbringing and love for sports, led him to ultra running
The emotional rollercoaster of Leadville 100, from blowing up to rising back up with support from friends and crew (including a pep talk from Andy Glaze)
Behind the scenes of Hyperlyte's new H2C formula—crafted by runners, for runners
The lessons Emory learned from the struggle—and how he plans to carry them forward
Whether you’re training for your first 50K or your fifth 100, Emory’s story will remind you that the magic happens when you go deep—and don’t back down.
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Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
More Carbs, More Dirt, More Miles.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Training Peaks - https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/A training app as versatile as you.
Start your free trial at https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker/
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
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Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com/Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
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Emory Atterberry, Leadville 100, Hyperlyte, endurance, ultra running, trail running, mental toughness, startup life, Andy Glaze, H2C, crew, DFL, redemption, perseverance, sports culture, long-distance running
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“I try not to let the accident define me, but rather the actions that I took after that define who I am.”
This week, on the MidPacker Pod Troy Meadows welcomes Jeff Waldmuller, a true multi-hyphenate — musician, prosthetist, para-athlete, and relentless endurance junkie.
Jeff’s story starts with music. He toured the world as a trumpet player, even performing with Emmy and Tony award-winning shows. But after a devastating motorcycle accident nearly cost him his arm and leg, Jeff made a bold decision to amputate below the knee and rewrite his story. That choice opened the door to running, triathlons, and ultra-endurance racing
He transitioned from the stage to the start line, racing sprint triathlons to full Ironman, grinding through marathons and ultras, and ultimately setting his sights on the Leadville 100.
At Leadville, Jeff has faced brutal setbacks: crashes, broken bones, missed cutoffs — yet he always comes back, fueled by the mantra: “I commit, I won’t quit.”
Beyond racing, Jeff’s day job as a prosthetist with Ottobock has taken him to the Tokyo and Paris Paralympic Games, where he provided free repairs and equipment for athletes competing on the world stage.
His advocacy stretches further with organizations like Challenge Athletes Foundation, Limbs for Life Foundation, Team Catapult, and Full Circle Movement, where he helps create access, mentorship, and mobility for adaptive athletes.
Jeff’s journey is about resilience, creativity, and proving that identity isn’t defined by what happens to you — but by what you choose to do next.
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Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
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Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
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Jeff Waldmuller, prosthetist, para-athlete, Challenge Athletes Foundation, Ottobock, Paralympics, Leadville 100, ultrarunning, adaptive sports, endurance
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"Flyathlon has this magical way of forcing you to be both present and patient. You can't rush a river, and you sure can't fake catching a trout."
Ashley “Nelly” Nelson is a Boulder-based trail runner, flyathlon enthusiast, and community builder who brings heart, humor, and intention to everything she does. With roots in competitive sports and a creative spirit, Nelly blends trail running with fly fishing to reconnect with nature and redefine what movement can look like.
She’s the founder of Boulder Collective, a social run club focused on inclusivity and post-run connection, and works professionally in regenerative food systems—aligning her values both on and off the trail. Nelly’s story is a powerful reminder that performance isn’t just about pace—it’s about purpose, play, and building a life you love.
What We Talked About
Discovering the flyathlon: trail running meets fly fishing with a side of Type 2 fun
Founding Boulder Collective and creating space for runners of all backgrounds
Why creativity, rest, and balance are key to staying healthy and happy in the sport
Working in regenerative food systems and aligning outdoor passions with career values
Embracing community over competition—and why connection is a secret training tool
Relevant Links and Resources
IG: @runinwithnelly
Flyathlon (official site)
Quinn Snacks (regenerative food company):
Boulder Running Events calendar (for Boulder-area run groups):
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Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
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trail running, flyathlon, community, sustainability, Boulder Collective, regenerative food, nature, recovery, creativity, inclusive running, environmental values
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“I don’t want to just direct a race—I want to give people something they’ve never experienced before.”
In this episode, Troy sits down with Richard Abernathy, the creative force behind Dirty Wolf Racing—a trail and ultra event series in North Carolina that blends storytelling, challenge, and community in unforgettable ways.
From humble beginnings on a tiny track to directing races like Beast of the East 100, Stone Mountain Massacre, and the ever-whimsical LLAMA, Richard shares his wild journey from reluctant runner to race director, family man, and full-time adventure architect.
Whether it’s mystery aid stations with elemental rocks or events that include llamas, Richard’s approach to trail running is one-of-a-kind—infusing play, grit, and heart into everything he touches.
In this episode, Richard and Troy talk about:
How a playful challenge from his ex-wife kicked off his running journey
Starting Dirty Wolf Racing and creating events with storytelling at the core
The beautiful chaos of directing races while supporting his wife’s herbal brand, Hollowed Springs Art
The inspiration behind events like LLAMA, Leatherwood, and Stone Mountain Massacre
What it really takes to keep race experiences fresh, creative, and community-driven
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Check them out at janji.com.
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
“The Kid” Hans Troyer Documentary
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
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Richard Abernathy, Dirty Wolf Racing, trail running, race director, Beast of the East, LLAMA Ultra, Stone Mountain Massacre, Hollowed Springs Art, ultrarunning, North Carolina trail races, creative race design, UltraSignup, family and running
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“Sometimes doing 85% of the training is better if it means you still enjoy life.”
In this episode of the MidPacker Pod, Troy Meadows sits down with trail runner, coach, and community builder Jenny Maier to talk about her winding journey from environmental lawyer to strength and mobility coach for runners. Jenny shares how she rediscovered running after a decade-long break, fell in love with the Marin trails through San Francisco Running Company, and built a career around helping everyday athletes thrive.
Jenny reminds us that you don’t need to be an elite runner to deserve coaching—or to achieve extraordinary things. She’s an eight-time Javelina finisher, Western States lottery veteran, and soon-to-be Boston Marathon runner. Beyond racing, Jenny balances running with a love for poetry, puzzles, and her two wild dogs, proving that a full life off the trails makes the running journey richer.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
Jenny’s leap from lawyer to running coach and biomechanics nerd
The electric early days of San Francisco Running Company and its impact on the Bay Area trail community
Finding joy (and longevity) as a self-described “average runner”
Why balance, rest, and mobility are just as important as big training blocks
Her perspective on volunteering, community, and the next generation of trail runners
Whether you’re chasing a hundred-miler or just trying to fit runs into a busy life, Jenny’s story is a reminder that running is most rewarding when it fits into—not takes over—your life.
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Jenny Maier, San Francisco Running Company, SFRC, ultrarunning, trail running, Javelina Jundred, Western States lottery, Boston Marathon, trail running community, running coach, strength training, mobility, biomechanics, Dipsea Race, poetry, balance, midpack runners
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“I am not producing beer just to produce beer. I am producing beer with the intention of building a community around an event.”
This episode Troy Meadows talks with Phil Cutti.
Troy and Phil unpack how science, sport, and brewing can feed each other in the best possible way. Listeners will hear a story about curiosity, community, and finding purpose after setbacks.
Athlete section
Who he is: Exercise physiologist turned brewer, ultra runner, open water swimmer, and long-time Marin local.
What he built: Ripple Beer Project, creating event beers that celebrate finish lines and send money back to local nonprofits.
Racing and service: Years of triathlon and trail racing, safety sweep volunteer at the Dipsea, and a growing return to ultras after back surgery.
What is next: Aiming for a big 2025 with an eye on Hood Hundred and a steady rebuild after successful outings like Gorge Waterfalls 100K.
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Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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Phil Cutti, Ripple Beer Project, Headlands 50K, Milo Foundation, Dipsea, exercise physiology, Stanford cooling glove, AlterG, Vasper, Gorge Waterfalls 100K, Hood Hundred, Marin County, fermentation, brewing, non alcoholic beer, ultrarunning, injury comeback, community building, trail running
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"I’m always asking: how do I support myself and support the people I care about? That’s what drives everything, from my training to my work to my relationships."
Emily Holland turns the trail running tale on its head, going from hating pounding out miles to discovering healing in the dirt and roots. What started as a reluctant hike in the White Mountains turned into a full-blown love affair with ultra distances. She’s taken on the Gorge 50K earlier this year and is gearing up for the Grand Traverse this August—facing altitude, grit, and elevation head-on. Along the way, she discovered that trail running could be just as much about emotional health as it is about pushing pace.
Beyond the trails, Emily wears all the hats: content strategist, operations whiz, community builder, and founder of Wild Poppy Creative. She supports running creators, builds inclusive content, and brings passion-driven structure to the outdoor media space. On top of that, she’s embraced an alcohol-free life, using that clarity to lean harder into creativity, connection, and her personal growth. Her Substack, Multifaceted Musings, is where her reflections and storytelling really shine.
Motivational Takeaways
Transformation can start with the thing you least expect to love.
Passion plus strategy equals sustainable impact—especially in business and community.
Letting go of old patterns (like drinking) can unlock new confidence and drive.
Relevant Links
Emily’s Substack: Multifaceted Musings
Grand Traverse Mountain Run 2025 details Crested Butte Nordic
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H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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trail running, ultrarunning, healing, ultra marathon, Gorge 50K, Grand Traverse, sobriety, content strategy, Wild Poppy Creative, inclusivity, Substack, endurance, community building
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“The adventure is the goal, not the finish time.”
This week, the MidPacker Pod sits down with Rini Sugianto, an adventurer, animator, and trail runner whose journey proves that the best stories often come from the back of the pack.
Born in Lampung, Sumatra, Rini’s early loves were animation and mountains. After moving to the U.S., she swapped ice axes and heavy packs for the freedom of trail running, a shift that unlocked a whole new way to explore.
Her adventures span from Papua’s jungles to California’s peaks, including Malibu, Kilimanjaro, and Mount Whitney. Along the way, she discovered the beauty of moving simply and self-supported.
At UTMB, Rini fought through illness and a delayed start, crossing the 100-mile finish just 30 minutes before cutoff. Then, in 2025, she made history as the first Indonesian woman to finish the Western States Endurance Run, clocking 29:29:03 and earning every second of that buckle.
For Rini, it has never been about speed. It is about staying power, chasing big dreams, and finding joy in the adventure, whether that is racing qualifiers or fast-packing the Sierra and Tahoe trails.
Motivational Takeaways
Perseverance > pace.
Curiosity can change your life.
The back of the pack has the best stories.
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Rini Sugianto, Lampung, trail running, mountaineering, UTMB, Western States 100, back-of-the-pack, endurance, fastpacking, perseverance, ultrarunning
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“I had a 10-year journey to Hardrock. And when I kissed the rock, it felt like all those years finally made sense.”
In this episode, Troy sits down with Ann Ongena, a Belgian-born runner and mom of five who discovered running in her 40s and went on to become the final official finisher at the 2025 Hardrock 100—crossing the line with just seven minutes to spare.
Ann's story is one of quiet persistence, deep community roots, and a love for the mountains that shaped her into an ultra-runner. From training with a Flemish-language Couch to 5K podcast in Malibu to building up to qualifiers like UTMB, Kodiak Ultra Marathons, and Ultra Tour Monte Rosa, she’s embraced every mile of the journey.
We cover:
How Ann transitioned from a late-blooming runner to an ultramarathon finisher
Her 10-year journey of trying to get into Hardrock—and what it meant to finish
Training while raising five kids and now juggling grandkids and a part-time hiking guide gig
Her role in Malibu’s Trail Runners Club and love for the local trail community
How crewing, friendship, and the right playlist carried her through the San Juans
Ann’s story reminds us that age, pace, and finish time don't define us—showing up does.
Relevant Links
Ann’s IG: @annongena
Trail Runners Club - Malibu
Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc (UTMB)
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H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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Ann Ongena, Hardrock 100, Trail Running, Midpacker, Female Ultra Runner, San Juans, Trail Runners Club, UTMB, Kodiak, Ultra Tour Monte Rosa, Grandmother Runner, FKT, Perseverance, Grit, 100 Miles, Golden Hour Finish, Malibu Trails
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“Hope will bring you home—those words rode with me all 100 miles.”
Julio Palma’s path from overwhelmed grad student to two-time Hardrock finisher is a testament to grit, generosity, and believing in second chances. Born in Mexico City, this Penn State chemistry professor first laced up in 2006 to outrun depression. Road marathons led to a JFK 50 debut, then a deep dive into East-coast classics like the Laurel Highlands 70 before joining the “Wild & Tough” fraternity at Hardrock 100, twice.
In this episode listeners will hear:
Hope on the wait-list: how Julio got Ryan’s bib 14 minutes before the 2025 Hardrock start and kissed the rock in 41 hours.
Balancing beakers & big miles: the juggling act of a tenure-track load, family life, and 4 a.m. trail sessions (plus why his wife logs 20-mile treadmill runs).
Community over competition: pandemic fund-raisers, assistant XC coaching, and creating safer spaces for women and BIPOC runners.
Lessons from failure & fog: Western States, a humid slog at Laurel Highlands, and why “balance means choosing what matters most right now.”
Brands & events name-checked: Hardrock, Western States, Laurel Highlands Ultra, JFK 50, Barkley Fall Classic.
Links:
Julio’s IG - @palmajl
Hardrock 100 Endurance Run hardrock100.com
Laurel Highlands 70.5 Ultra REDPOINT PRODUCTIONS
JFK 50 Mile jfk50mile.org
Western States Endurance Run WSER
Barkley Fall Classic UltraSignup
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H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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Hardrock 100, Western States 100, Laurel Highlands 70, JFK 50, Barkley Fall Classic, wait-list, inclusion, trail running, ultramarathon, academic balance, family, Pennsylvania trails, Silverton, hope, community, treadmill training
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“You’re never at the end... it’s always about the journey.”
In this inspiring episode, Michael Sugianto, Calgary-based adventure and lifestyle photographer turned trail runner, shares a journey that will ignite your sense of wanderlust and grit.
Michael Sugianto’s path is one of curiosity and courage. Originally trained as a chemical engineer at the University of Calgary, he found his true passion behind the lens and in the outdoors, turning a hobby into a thriving career as a full-time freelance adventure and lifestyle photographer.
Over the past five years, Michael has built a reputation for capturing stunning landscapes and dynamic moments, working with brands like Canon and Hyperlite Mountain Gear. But his story doesn’t stop there, just a year and a half ago, Michael dove headfirst into trail running, blending his creative eye with the endurance world. In that short time, he’s already tackled the iconic Gorge Waterfalls 50K and claimed a podium finish at the rugged Arctic Triple in Norway.
His journey exemplifies an adventurous mindset—pushing boundaries, embracing discomfort, and continuously seeking new ways to grow both creatively and athletically.
Motivational Takeaways
Embrace curiosity – one camera shot led to a complete career and training overhaul.
Dive into new passions even later in life – Michael began trail racing just over a year ago and has already hit high marks.
Pursue creative storytelling – he blends environmental shots and candid portraits to bring adventure to life.
Links & Resources
Michael’s IG: @mikesugianto – epic mountain scapes
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Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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Ultrarunning, trail running, adventure photography, mountain ultramarathon, inspiration, Calgary, life design, Arctic Triple, engineering to adventure, Canon EOS, 2025 training
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“This isn’t my last word with Cocodona. I’m turning this into unfinished business.”
In this episode, Troy Meadows talks with Lindsey Dwyer—a full-time middle school PE teacher and elite ultra-runner who’s quietly been stacking some seriously impressive performances on the trails.
Lindsey recently finished second at the 2025 Cocodona 250, clocking a time of 79 hours and 35 minutes while battling through a respiratory issue that made breathing, let alone running, feel nearly impossible.
Troy and Lindsey dive into how she managed to keep pushing through the low moments of that race, how she juggles 100-mile training weeks with her responsibilities in the classroom, and why she’s heading back to UTMB with a big goal and even bigger fire.
They talk about the importance of community, mental grit, and showing up fully in both running and life—even when things aren’t going your way. From major podiums like Brazos Bend and Miwok to the day-in, day-out grind of teaching and training, Lindsey brings a grounded, inspiring energy to everything she does.
Whether you’re chasing your first ultra or eyeing 200+ milers, this conversation reminds us what’s possible when passion meets perseverance.
Motivational Takeaways
Embracing adversity: Lindsey talks about pushing through pain and illness during Cocodona, finding grit when moments get dark.
Smart training: balancing high mileage with recovery, especially juggling teaching responsibilities.
Big‑picture mindset: viewing setback as setup — she’s targeting UTMB this year and looking to return to Cocodona stronger than ever.
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Check them out at janji.com.
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
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Keywords:ultrarunning, trailrunning, Cocodona250, UTMBIndex, respiratorychallenge, teacherathlete, grit, trainingbalance, ultra‑podcast, SanFranciscoRunningCompany
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“Collecting samples on the trail means your miles are contributing to conservation.”
On this episode Adam Kimble joins Troy Meadows on the MidPacker Pod to share a story bursting with grit, adventure, and giving back with a cool initiative to help the Adventure Scientists California Biodiversity Project.
Adventure Scientists California Biodiversity Project.
adventurescientists.org/adam-kimble
Adam’s Highlights
From road marathons to ultrarunning stardom: Adam’s journey began with that drenched 50 K in 2014 and evolved into FKTs on the Tahoe Rim Trail and a self-supported coast-to-coast run across the U.S.
Up Coming Races: Gearing up for Badwater 135 in July and Cocodona 250 in May.
Life beyond miles: Coaching, race directing, motivational speaking, family man, and ardent advocate for community inclusion.
Motivational Takeaways
Push your perceived limits: Adam’s mantra—he’s always chasing what his body and mind can do next.
Balance through priorities: Reveals how he stays centered as a pro athlete, dad to two young kids, and pillar of his trail community.
Adventure as purpose: Travels with his family, steered by curiosity and shared exploration.
Community & Conservation
Race director and coach: Deeply involved with Donner Party Mountain Runners and official pacer for the California International Marathon since 2019.
Adventure Scientists California Biodiversity Project: Adam is empowering trail runners, hikers, and bikers to gather soil and insect data statewide. Participants can join teams, compete, and contribute real-world science.
Adam's Links
Website: https://adamkimble.com/media/about/
Adventure Scientists Links
Partner Links:
A big shoutout to our sponsor, Janji! Their running apparel is designed for everyday exploration, and 2% of sales support clean water initiatives worldwide. Plus, with a five-year guarantee, you know it's gear you can trust. Check them out at janji.com.
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
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Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
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ultrarunning, trailrunning, running, Badwater135, Cocodona250, Tahoe Rim Trail, FKTs, family‑balance, trail community, biodiversity, citizen science, Adventure Scientists
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“Aren’t you glad we don’t have to run this thing anymore?” – Tim
The MidPacker Pod dives deep into the legend of Western States with two athletes who helped write it. Co-host MVD sits down with five-time champion Tim Twietmeyer—the only human with 25 sub-24-hour buckles—and Andy Jones-Wilkins, owner of ten straight silver buckles and seven top-ten finishes.
Together they relive:
1995’s “Fire & Ice” showdown: waist-deep snow, 105 °F canyons, and a nail-biter win over Ann Trason and the Tarahumara runnerstherunnerstrip.comirunfar.com
2005: The year AJW almost won WSER
2006: Tim's Last Running and the passing of the torch to the next Generation
The infamous Ice Cream Sandwich Run, Tim’s 52-mile training rite of passage where “if you puke, the workout doesn’t count.”ajwsblog.blogspot.com
How sponsorships—from Mont-Tréal to Patagonia—sparked the sport’s leap from “duct-taped bottles” to dialed pro teams
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“Setbacks aren’t stop signs — they’re signposts to something greater.”
Emory Atterberry and Jeremy Bohnett, founders of Hyperlyte Liquid Performance, join the MidPacker Pod to share their inspiring journey — from grassroots ultra runners to fueling revolutionaries in the endurance community.
Athlete Journey & Achievements
Emory’s transformation from college football player turned recreational runner to pursuing ultra-distance challenges
Jeremy’s comeback story: healing from injury, thru‑hiking the AT, and entering ultra‑endurance with renewed purpose.
Launched Hyperlyte to solve a problem they had with there own need for a sports nutrition product that is built around function, purpose, and vibes.
Motivational Takeaways
Community is everything: training buddies aren’t just teammates — they’re accountability partners and lifelines.
Building a brand from passion: authenticity wins hearts, especially when you live what you preach on the trails.
Relevant Links
Website: Hyperlyte Liquid Performance
THE KID documentary (full film) on YouTube
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A big shoutout to our sponsor, Janji! Their running apparel is designed for everyday exploration, and 2% of sales support clean water initiatives worldwide. Plus, with a five-year guarantee, you know it's gear you can trust. Check them out at janji.com,Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Hyerlyte Liquid Performance - https://www.hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Made by the ultra-endurance athlete, for the ultra-endurance athlete.
H001 is a new hydration mix that has the carbs and sodium your body needs for high-output adventures in a single serving.
Check them out at hyperlyteliquidperformance.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your individual order and 10% off your first subscription order.
Bear Butt Wipes - Bearbuttwipes.com
Portable individually wrapped wipes for when nature calls and a DNF is not an option.
Bear Butt Wipes: Stay wild. Stay clean.
Check them out at Bearbuttwipes.com
Use the code MIDPACKER for 10% off your order.
Run Trail Life - https://runtraillife.com
Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
Use code: midpackerpod to double the donation from your purchase.
Visit RunTrailLife.com to check out our line of Hats and Organic cotton T's.
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