Episode 7. Dishonesty Is Killing You: How to Stop Abandoning Yourself(featuring Tah Whitty)
In this raw conversation, Hannah sits down with one of the most singular humans she’s ever met: Tah Whitty — former trauma nurse, impossibility alchemist, and the man people go to when they’re finally done lying to themselves.
Tah has worked in emergency rooms, with elite performers, with couples on the brink, and with people who have spent their entire lives shrinking, masking, and contorting themselves into someone more “acceptable.” His work sits at the intersection of biology, honesty, safety, nervous system truth, and what it actually takes to become a fully expressed human.
If you’ve felt stuck in your marriage… stuck in your patterns… stuck in the “pick me” persona you built to survive… or stuck between the 2 a.m. version of you and the polished daytime one — this episode will feel like relief and reckoning at the same time.
Warning: You will not leave this episode the same.
And that’s the point.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – The End of “Later”
02:00 – Who Tah Whitty Really Is
03:30 – Nursing, Trauma & the Body
04:40 – The Most Transformative Thing Tah Taught Hannah: Radical Honesty
07:40 – What Dishonesty Really Is
10:00 – How We Train Ourselves Out of Truth
13:00 – The Vault: How the Body Stores Unspoken Truth
17:00 – Feeling Stuck in a Marriage
18:00 – Anger: The Messenger You’ve Been Taught to Ignore
21:00 – Dishonesty as a Protective Mechanism
25:00 – Men with Tempers: Why It Feels So Scary
27:30 – Boundaries, Self-Worth & The Woman Who Can’t Say “Enough”
31:00 – Why You Need People Outside the Marriage
33:00 – Tyrants, Control & Losing Your Power
36:00 – Society Was Built for Men — And Women Pay the Price
38:00 – Why Women Get Manipulated During Divorce
40:00 – Stop Asking “Why” — Start Asking “What”
43:00 – Are You Really Safe? What Safety Actually Means
45:00 – Why Telling the Truth Will Cost You
48:00 – Dishonesty Will Cost You More
49:30 – The Internet Has Higher Truth Standards Than Marriage
52:00 – Compassion Through Honesty
54:00 – The Two Versions of Hannah
57:00 – The Vault Cracks Open
59:00 – Baby-Step Honesty: How Hannah Rebuilt Herself
01:01:00 – The Miracle of Being Fully Seen🔥
Connect with Tah Whitty:
Tah Whitty — Impossibility Alchemist & Coach
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tahfree/?hl=en
Work With Tah: https://calltah.com/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnzwypce7KJjeZyaFoY1452zsaii2KYGH4AbInWDdXssC6EMhfRsBKwTUVJNI_aem_gQffKSdqvcH1WEmAeICzuQ
Mentioned In This Episode:
The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle
OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication
→ ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com
Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok
→ @hannahhembreebell
This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).
Episode 6. The Truth About Men, Money & Moving On (featuring Holly J. Moore)
In this honest, no-fluff conversation, Hannah sits down with powerhouse California divorce attorney Holly J. Moore — the woman who has seen everything from celebrity splits to the emotional landmines women walk into without even knowing it.
Holly represents high-net-worth clients, professional athletes, and a whole lot of men — giving her a front-row seat to the differences in how men and women prepare for divorce, survive divorce, and rebuild after divorce.
If you’ve ever wondered:
Why do men seem to move on faster?
Why do women struggle with identity so much more?
Why does support feel like both a lifeline and a trap?
How do I keep my emotions from blowing up my case?
— this episode is a masterclass.
Holly and Hannah unpack money wounds, identity collapse, purpose, the danger of revenge energy, the truth about celebrity divorces, and what women must know if they want to stop surviving and start becoming.
00:00 – Why We’re Done Waiting
02:00 – Representing High-Net-Worth Clients & Men
06:00 – How Men and Women Divorce Differently
09:00 – What Support Really Looks Like (California vs. Texas)
12:30 – The Identity Collapse After Divorce
16:00 – What Happens When the Wife Card Gets Pulled
20:00 – Fear, Money & the Truth Women Don’t Want to Admit
23:00 – “It’s Never Too Late to Start Over”
25:00 – The Best & Worst News: Your Life Is On You
27:40 – Who Actually Prepares Better: Men or Women?
29:00 – The One Question Every Woman Needs During Divorce
32:00 – The #1 Mistake Women Make: Using Kids as Pawns
37:00 – The Golden Rule: Never Act While Activated
42:00 – How Men Move On Faster (and Why Women Don’t)
47:00 – The Power of Leaving the Stuff Behind
52:00 – What Celebrity Divorce Really Looks Like
56:00 – Reputation, Leverage & Press Exposure
58:30 – When Emotion Destroys Your Own Case
01:01:30 – The Danger of Being a Divorce Lawyer
Connect With Holly:
Holly J. Moore – Divorce & Family Lawyer (California)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollyjmoore/?hl=en
Website: https://www.moorefamilylawgroup.com/careers-2-4/holly-j-moore/
Podcast: Made for More → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/made-for-moore-with-holly-j-moore/id1730797527
Mentioned In This Episode:
The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle
OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication
→ ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com
Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok
→ @hannahhembreebell
This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).
Episode 5: Becoming the Woman You Were Always Afraid to Be (featuring Lily Shepard)
In this powerful conversation, Hannah sits down with somatic executive coach Lily Shepard to talk about identity, the body, divorce, desire, and what it really means to become the woman you were meant to be.
Lily shares her own traumatic divorce experience, how identity collapses when the “wife” role disappears, and how reconnecting to the body creates space for safety, clarity, and authentic expansion.
They unpack:
why most women run from something, not toward something
the collapse that happens when identity is built on roles
how to rediscover pieces of yourself you abandoned in marriage
practical somatic tools for grounding and self-safety
why joy feels terrifying
the radical truth: “I want more” is a complete sentence
This episode will challenge you, comfort you, and offer a roadmap for the next version of yourself.
Hannah and Lily talk about how women evolve, and why identity shouldn’t be pinned down for other people’s comfort.
TIMESTAMPS & KEY MOMENTS
0:00 — Living Out Loud
2:07 — Identity Isn’t Fixed
3:55 — The Identity Collapse of Divorce
5:48 — Clinging to the Old Life
7:30 — Running From vs. Running Toward
9:44 — Bitter or Better
12:38 — Identity Built on Others
14:03 — Reclaiming What You Abandoned
19:11 — What Somatic Work Really Means
21:22 — Imagining the Woman You’re Becoming
24:08 — The Body as the Way Home
27:36 — Writing a Letter to Your Body
30:29 — Desire, Shame & “The Lion Inside”
34:01 — The Sentence Divorce Forces Out of You: “I Want More.”
39:23 — Practical Tools for Feeling Safe Again
42:58 — The Hardest Part: Letting Good Things In
47:55 — Best-Case-Scenario Thinking
51:48 — Divorce as a Superpower
Work with Lily:
Somatic Executive Coaching for high-achieving women rebuilding identity, safety, and desire
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodyintelligence_academy/?hl=en
Website: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/
Coaching: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/1-1-coaching
Mentioned In This Episode
Hannah's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell/
OurFamilyWizard (OFW)
Court-trusted communication tool for co-parents.
https://www.ourfamilywizard.com
My Confident Divorce (MCD)
Hannah’s community + coaching for women navigating divorce, identity, and rebuilding their lives.
https://myconfidentdivorce.com
Hembree Bell Law Firm (HBLF)
Modern, tech-forward Texas family law representation that protects your peace, your kids, and your future.
https://hembreebell.com
This podcast and its show notes are for educational and informational purposes only.
Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice, mental health advice, or financial advice. Every situation is unique, and listeners should consult with a licensed professional in their state before making decisions related to divorce, parenting, finances, or mental health.
If you feel unsafe at any point in your relationship, please contact a local domestic violence hotline or emergency services. Your safety matters.
Episode 4. The Money Talk Women Were Never Given: Why Divorce Blindsides Even the Smartest Women (featuring Sara Glakas)
In this practical conversation, Hannah sits down with financial educator and advisor Sara Glakas — founder of Black Barn Financial and the Austin Women’s Investing Group. She is a long-time advocate for helping women build confidence around money.
If you're navigating divorce, considering leaving, or realizing you never had a clear picture of your financial life, this episode explains why — and what you can do next.
Sara breaks down financial avoidance, investing basics, emotional decision-making, advisor red flags, and why so many capable women enter divorce without a roadmap.
Clear, accessible, and grounded in real experience, this conversation offers the financial context most women were never given.
00:00 – Why Women Walk Into Divorce Without a Map
01:28 – Meet Sara Glakas
02:14 – Inside a Family Law Firm: The Wake-Up Moment
04:08 – The Myths Women Carry Into Divorce
06:27 – ‘I’ve Never Looked at a Tax Return Before…’
10:51 – Financial Avoidance: The Silent Risk
13:10 – Understanding Your Money Story
15:50 – When Your Money Story Collides with Divorce
32:21 – Budgeting, Shame & Psychological Blocks
33:32 – Investing Basics Every Woman Should Know
38:53 – Why Financial Advisors Feel Intimidating
45:40 – How Advisors Get Paid (and Why It Matters)
1:06:52 – Stop Saving Joy for “Later”
1:15:47 – Final Thoughts: Women Are More Capable Than They Think
Connect with Sara Glakas
Check Out Black Barn Financial: https://www.blackbarnfinancial.com/
Check Out Austin Womens Investing Group:
https://austinwomensinvestinggroup.com/
Follow Sara on Her Podcast: https://www.womenontheverge.com/
Resources Mentioned:
The Circle — MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle
OurFamilyWizard — OurFamilyWizard.com/HHB
Hembree Bell Law Firm - Hembreebell.com
Follow Hannah on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell/
Follow Hannah on TikTok -
https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahhembreebell
Episode 3. Your Triggers Aren't The Problem... You Are (featuring Casey Shipp)
In this no-filter, no-bullshit conversation, Hannah sits down with her mentor, coach, and full-blown spiritual defibrillator, Casey Shipp — the woman Hannah calls her string bikini shaman and one of the biggest influences in her own evolution.
If you are in the middle of a divorce, thinking about leaving, or standing in the ashes asking, How did I end up here again? — this episode will feel like someone finally turned the lights on.
Casey talks triggers, victim cycles, emotional intelligence, money wounds, nervous system regulation, and the real reason women keep choosing the same man in a different body.
Warning: You will be called out. And you will be liberated.
00:00 – Why You’re Actually Triggered
Why triggers aren’t insults — they’re invitations. And why something only stings if some part of you believes it’s true.
06:00 – The Victim Loop & How Women Get Stuck There
How women in divorce land get trapped in victim → villain → victim cycles… and how to break the pattern before you ruin the next relationship.
12:00 – Taking Radical Responsibility (Without Shame)
How to look at the marriage you chose, the pain you allowed, and the version of yourself who said yes — with compassion instead of self-hate.
18:00 – Identity, Divorce & the House of Cards
Why your identity collapses during divorce — and the reason so many women realize they never built one of their own to begin with.
23:00 – Knowing What You Want (For Real This Time)
Casey guides you through how to uncover desire without guilt, fear, or the martyr voice that says: I don’t need anything.
30:00 – Money Wounds, Worthiness & the Lie of ‘I Can’t Afford to Leave’
The brutal truth about money stories, safety, and why staying for financial security is spiritual and emotional self-abandonment.
43:00 – Alignment, Emotional Intelligence & Taking the Next Right Step
How to know if your next move is aligned — and how to stop leaking energy through drama, fear, or frantic action.
50:00 – The Problem with Bitch-Fest Friend Groups
Why complaining to your friends keeps you stuck — and why AI might actually be the more emotionally mature support system right now.
54:00 – How AI Became a Tool for Emotional Regulation
Hannah shares how Casey’s AI helped her understand her emotional patterns, stop looping, and regulate instead of spiraling.
1:06:00 – Death, Rebirth & Reinvention (A Necessary Breakdown)
Casey opens up about her own current season of “the hustle detox” and spiritual death cycles.
1:08:00 – The One Message Casey Has for Every Woman in Divorceland
“Keep your heart open.”
Not naive. Not blind. Just open. Because nothing you want lives behind a closed heart.
“Triggers are gifts — little truth bombs pointing you back to yourself.”
“You didn’t choose wrong because you’re stupid. You chose from your unhealed places.”
“Divorce can make you bitter or better — you choose.”
“Money doesn’t come from men. Money comes from belief.”
“If you’re trying to avoid disappointment, you will live a disappointing life.”
“Nothing you want exists in a closed heart.”
Casey Shipp’s AI — The emotional-regulation AI Hannah swears changed her life.
→https://www.caseyshipphmz.com/hotbodyai
The Circle — Weekly live sessions + My Confident Divorce course
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle
OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting app that keeps communication clean and court-ready
→ ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com
Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell
This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).
Episode 2: Losing Yourself Trying To Be The Perfect Wife: How Good Women Get Lost In The Wrong Roles
“You’re not broken. You’re beginning.” — Hannah Hembree Bell
In this unfiltered conversation, Hannah sits down with her longtime friend and former client Amanda Diehl — a mom of two, twice divorced, and proof that sometimes the life you want is on the other side of the one that broke you.
Together they talk about how good women end up in hard marriages, what shame really feels like, and how to rebuild your identity when the roles of wife and mom stop being enough.
This is the episode every woman in “Divorceland” needs — whether you’re thinking about leaving, already in the thick of it, or trying to make sense of who you are after it’s over.
💬 What You’ll Hear
00:00 – The Manifesto
Stop saving your life for later. Hannah shares why she started Not Saving It for Later and introduces Amanda — friend, client, and fellow comeback story.
02:00 – The Church Girl & The Pastor’s Wife
Amanda’s first marriage at 21 — faith, family expectations, and how doing “everything right” can still go wrong.
06:00 – Identity in the Fire
When being “the good wife” and “the perfect mom” becomes your whole personality — and what happens when that crumbles.
12:00 – When You Think It’s Just a Rough Patch
What it looked like behind closed doors — the loneliness, the unspoken resentment, and the cultural script that said just stay and pray harder.
18:00 – Guilt, Shame, and the Wake-Up Call
Amanda breaks down the difference between guilt and shame, the grief of losing a person who’s still alive, and the moment she realized her kids needed a happy mom more than an intact home.
35:00 – The Second Marriage: Trying to “Fix” the Picture
Why she rushed into remarriage, ignored red flags, and learned the hard way that you can’t rebuild peace on top of unhealed pain.
57:00 – Let the Ground Rest
Amanda’s lesson in slowing down — how stillness and healing can feel terrifying when chaos was your normal.
1:07:00 – Know How You Like Your Eggs
On rediscovering identity: why every woman needs to know who she is — and what she wants — before choosing her next partner.
1:16:00 – Co-Parenting, Grace, and Gratitude
How healing her first marriage helped her forgive herself — and why she’s genuinely grateful for both divorces.
1:21:00 – Turning Pain into Purpose
How Amanda joined the Hembree Bell Law Firm team and now helps women walk the same hard road she did.
1:26:00 – Not Saving Joy for Later
Hannah and Amanda talk about learning to use the “good spoon” — not saving joy, peace, or happiness for someday.
💬 Mentioned in this Episode
The Circle: Weekly live sessions with Hannah + the full My Confident Divorce course — myconfidentdivorce.com/circle
(https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle)
OurFamilyWizard: The co-parenting app that keeps communication clean and court-ready — ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
(https://ourfamilywizard.com/HHB)
Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas): hembreebell.com
(https://hembreebell.com)
🔗 Connect
Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell
(https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell)
Subscribe to the show → Not Saving It for Later: Guiding Women Through Divorce & Beyond
⚖️ Disclaimer
This podcast and its contents are for educational and inspirational purposes only and are not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal guidance, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).
“You are worthy because you exist. Later is a lie.” — Hannah Hembree Bell
This first episode of Not Saving It For Later sets the tone for everything to come. It’s for women who are thinking about divorce, in the middle of it, on the other side, or simply stuck in the “medium suck” of life—tired of pretending everything’s fine and ready to start again. Hannah shares why she started the show, what it means to stop waiting for “later,” and how to build a life that feels like yours again. From the “good spoon” story to the Bitter vs. Better compass, she gets real about divorce, identity, and choosing joy now—not someday.
Join The Circle (Hannah live weekly + full My Confident Divorce course): myconfidentdivorce.com/circle
OurFamilyWizard (co‑parenting app partner perks): ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas): hembreebell.com
00:00 – Opening Manifesto: Stop saving your life for later. Hannah’s why for the show, who it’s for, and the promise: straight talk, zero fake‑empowerment BS.
02:21 – The Good Spoon: How a kitchen drawer pause exposed a lifetime of putting joy on layaway—and why “use the good spoon” became a movement.
04:43 – Later Is a Lie: “May death be ever your advisor.” The ticking‑clock mindset, Robert Frost’s two roads, and why you can’t wait to be “more worthy.”
06:27 – Welcome to Divorceland: The scary‑carnival metaphor; finding your footing when you didn’t ask for this ride. Cussing disclaimer, honesty guarantee.
08:44 – Capacity & Joy Buckets: From thimble → bathtub → ocean. Growing your capacity for good in tiny, repeatable stretches.
15:51 – Not Broken—Beginning: The “Is this it?” season, the cost of pretending, and permission to want a bigger life.
18:16 – Worthiness as Baseline: You are worthy because you exist. Full stop. (And what that changes.)
24:51 – Bitter or Better? The North Star for every decision during divorce. British Rowing’s one‑question method → your filter.
27:03 – Text You Shouldn’t Send: Applying Bitter/Better to the “X‑factor” pop‑off text. Court‑proofing your communication.
29:20 – Pro‑Woman ≠ Anti‑Man: Why this room centers women without bashing men; calling in healthy masculinity.
31:36 – Receipts, Tools, and Trials: When the kids didn’t live with her first; evidence, therapy, Divorce Poison, and long‑game strategy.
33:57 – Origin Story: East Texas to law school; three babies back‑to‑back; learning to want more.
36:26 – Turning 30 on Facebook: “This is your real life.” The not‑a‑dress‑rehearsal moment that changed the trajectory.
38:51 – Leaving Badly vs. Leaving Well: Why preparation matters; when settling now means war later; learning the hard way.
41:15 – My Confident Divorce (MCD): Course + Circle bundle; go‑bag checklists, custody prep, and evidence systems—so you don’t lose kids, money, or sanity.
43:29 – Carry Your Own Groceries: The dream that became the book: you can handle your life.
45:08 – Season Preview: Mediation, body and identity, woo + practical, divorce glow‑up, money power.
47:13 – The Confession: “I want more.” Why wanting more threatens systems—and why we’re doing it anyway.
49:32 – Joy Is the Point: People full of life are contagious. Let it rub off.
51:10 – Radical Responsibility: Viktor Frankl, the space between stimulus and response, and dropping the villain/victim script.
53:00 – Closing Charge: You are one to three decisions away from a different life. We’re not saving it for later.
Instagram & TikTok: @hannahhembreebell
This episode and these notes are for educational and inspirational purposes only and are not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal advice, consult a licensed attorney who knows your facts. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800‑799‑SAFE (7233).
Host: Hannah Hembree Bell — Texas divorce lawyer, mom, founder of Hembree Bell Law, creator of My Confident Divorce.
Production: Authentic Exposure Studio
Sponsors: OurFamilyWizard.
I’m Hannah Hembree Bell — divorce lawyer, divorced mom, and woman who rebuilt from the wreckage. This is Not Saving It For Later, the podcast guiding women through divorce and beyond.
Launching November 18th — because later is a lie.