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Demand Gen Confidential
Logan Rivenes
9 episodes
1 week ago
🎙 Demand Gen Confidential is the marketing podcast where your host - Logan Rivenes - will be talking with some of the most progressive marketers out there. Diving deep into marketing tactics, and discovering what’s actually working, to help you become a better marketer. In each episode, you'll walk away with actionable insights and a new perspective.
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🎙 Demand Gen Confidential is the marketing podcast where your host - Logan Rivenes - will be talking with some of the most progressive marketers out there. Diving deep into marketing tactics, and discovering what’s actually working, to help you become a better marketer. In each episode, you'll walk away with actionable insights and a new perspective.
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Demand Gen Confidential
Process-First Marketing: Building on LinkedIn, Choosing Tools, and Using AI Better w/Sid Khaitan

How do modern marketers drive traffic, choose tools that fit their system, and use AI to do better work (not just faster work)? 


In this episode, product marketer and builder Sid Khaitan unpacks real-world tactics. Writing consistently for LinkedIn, mapping process before buying tools, and turning AI into workflows you’ll reuse.


You’ll learn:

  • How to start posting on LinkedIn without overthinking it
  • Why the hardest part is building a daily writing muscle
  • What to measure on LinkedIn (beyond impressions)
  • A simple framework for tool selection: people → process → technology
  • Ways to use AI to improve the work itself (not just crank out more content)
  • One agent/workflow to try this week


Chapters

00:00 — Why Video Matters Now (and How We Started)

06:41 — Meet Sid: Product Marketer, Builder, Community Guy

07:43 — LinkedIn 101: Start Without Overthinking

11:18 — The Hard Part: Building the Daily Writing Muscle

12:57 — Measuring LinkedIn: From Vanity to Outcomes

17:55 — Process > Tools: How to Choose Your Stack

27:38 — Product Thinking for Marketers

33:30 — Practical AI: Better Work, Not Just Faster

41:41 — One Agent to Try This Week


Connect with ⁠Sid on LinkedIn⁠.


⁠Rand Fishkin video on search trends⁠.


If you enjoyed this episode, please like/subscribe and drop a comment with the tool or workflow you’re testing right now.

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1 month ago
49 minutes 24 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
The marketing squeeze: balancing brand & pipeline w/ Brianna Ruiz

Marketers are being asked to do more with less and still hit the same (or bigger) goals.


In this episode, Brianna Ruiz (Director of Digital Advertising, Closed Loop) lays out how to balance brand and performance when budgets are tight, how to actually measure brand’s lift without magical thinking, and how to use AI as an enhancer, not a replacement for human judgment.


We cover:

  • The “big squeeze” and why consistency beats one-off brand bursts.

  • A practical 40/60 split (brand/direct) and when to ratchet up or down.

  • Geo holdouts, blended CAC, and MMM as directional signals—not gospel.

  • Mental availability & the 95/5 rule for staying in the consideration set.

  • Why video outperforms static for storytelling and social discovery.

  • Real-world AI workflows (like building an agent per client) that actually help.

  • What to track when direct traffic declines: branded search & engagement.


Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to Demand Gen Confidential

00:15 – Golf, Scholarships, and Career Lessons

04:18 – From the Fairway to Funnels: Shifting Into Marketing

05:03 – The Big Squeeze: Today’s Marketing Challenges

06:30 – The 40/60 Split: Balancing Brand & Performance

22:22 – Beyond the Hype: Where AI Really Fits in Marketing

25:32 – Why Human Connection Still Wins in a Digital-First World

38:54 – Closing Playbook: Brianna’s Key Takeaways


Connect with Brianna on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/bri-ruiz/). Or Closed Loop (https://www.closedloop.com/).


If this episode helped, subscribe to Demand Gen Confidential and share it with a teammate who owns pipeline this quarter.

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1 month ago
40 minutes 31 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
Messaging That Converts: Chris Silvestri on Copy That Drives Decisions

Want messaging that actually drives results? In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, I’m joined by Chris Silvestri, founder of Conversion Alchemy, who brings a systems-thinking approach to copywriting rooted in psychology, strategy, and real customer insight.


We cover:

✅ How to shift your messaging in the profitability era

✅ The difference between positioning and messaging (most marketers blur it)

✅ Chris’s decision-making framework for conversion copy

✅ Tactical uses of AI that actually make marketers faster

✅ How synthetic research can help you scale messaging without sacrificing quality


Chris also shares his thoughts on music, marketing, and we discuss why marketers should think like scientists.


08:16 – From Drums to Conversion Copy: Chris’s Origin Story

10:55 – Messaging in the Profitability Era: Art Meets Outcome

18:51 – Positioning vs. Messaging Strategy: What Most Get Wrong

33:44 – Crafting a Point of View That Cuts Through the Noise

38:42 – Chris’s Decision-Making Framework for Conversion

45:25 – Practical AI Tactics for B2B Marketers

52:38 – Synthetic Research: A New Frontier for Customer Insight

Connect with Chris on LinkedIn.

Check out Conversion Alchemy.


👉 Subscribe for more conversations with world class marketers.

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4 months ago
56 minutes 7 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
AI SDRs, No MQLs, and Marketing That Actually Converts w/ Austin Sandmeyer

Stop doing what every marketer thinks they’re supposed to do. And start thinking really hard about what actually works.


In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, I talk with Austin Sandmeyer of Sendoso about breaking out of the B2B marketing status quo. They killed MQLs, ditched traditional trade shows, and took a risk running a Severance-themed campaign. Austin is a heavy user of AI to empower - not replace - humans. Get the blueprint for intentional, high-impact marketing in today’s profitability era.


If you're a marketer navigating internal buy-in, metrics overload, or the pressure to be everywhere at once, this episode’s for you.


In this episode, we discussed:

  • 00:00 - The Joys of Contact Naps
  • 07:36 - Meet Austin from Sendoso
  • 09:13 - B2B vs B2C: Why Austin Chose Relationships Over Transactions
  • 13:27 - Keeping Marketing Weird: Campaigns That Break the Mold
  • 17:23 - Innies vs Outties: A Severance-Inspired Strategy
  • 20:24 - Getting Campaign Buy-In: Telling the Right Internal Story
  • 24:58 - Thinking Hard About Metrics: Ditching MQLs
  • 30:02 - Events Reinvented: Ditching Trade Shows for Real Relationships
  • 42:19 - AI in Marketing: Automate the Mundane, Human the Valuable


Connect with Austin on LinkedIn.


👇 Like, comment, and subscribe if you want more episodes on bold, practical B2B marketing.

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5 months ago
52 minutes 39 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
The Growth Marketer’s Edge: AI, Product-Market Fit, and Boardroom Credibility w/ David Cardiel

In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, host I talk with seasoned growth marketer and fractional CMO David Cardiel to unpack what it takes to thrive as a modern B2B marketer in today’s environment of lean teams, profitability mandates, and executive scrutiny.


David shares hard-won lessons from scaling marketing teams through acquisition, aligning with sales and finance on metrics that matter, and using AI to build smarter, more repeatable go-to-market systems.


Whether you're leading demand gen at an early-stage startup or navigating scale at a mature SaaS company, this episode offers a blueprint for turning marketing into a growth engine the boardroom actually believes in.


Key Topics:

00:54 - Scaling Teams from $10M to $30M ARR

06:44 - Intro: The Revenue-Ready Marketer

08:26 - Fluent Speak: Earning Executive and Finance Trust

13:26 - ICP Work and CAC Discipline for Repeatable Growth

17:49 - Metrics That Align: Speaking Revenue Across Marketing, Sales, and Finance

25:19 - AI as a Tactical Advantage for Lean Marketing

35:23 - What Modern Marketers Need to Win

🔗 Connect with David on LinkedIn.

🌐 Visit David’s website.


Subscribe for more episodes where we break down real marketing strategies with real practitioners.

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5 months ago
45 minutes 3 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
Rethinking Marketing Metrics: How to Make Smarter Decisions w/ Connie Wang

Marketing teams track more metrics than ever, but which ones actually matter? Connie Wang - data analyst, ex-PhD researcher, and one of the sharpest minds in measurement strategy - helps us cut through the noise. Learn how to avoid common analytics traps, choose better metrics, and make decisions with confidence.

This episode is a must-listen for marketers who want to sharpen their measurement skills and make data actually useful.

  • 00:00 – Welcome to the Data Deep Dive

  • 11:56 – Pitfall #1: How to identify signal vs. noise in your metrics

  • 38:05 – Pitfall #2: You’re not thinking hard enough about your metrics

  • 47:07 – Pitfall #3: Choosing quantity over quality

  • 49:22 – Advice: Start with decisions you will make

  • 56:00 – Conclusion: Keep It Simple, Stay Curious

🔗 Connect with Connie on LinkedIn


Subscribe for more episodes where we break down real marketing strategies with real practitioners.


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6 months ago
57 minutes 31 seconds

Demand Gen Confidential
Stop Boring Campaigns: Generating Smarter Marketing Wins w/Guido Nuijten

In this episode, Guido Nuijten joins us to break down how to stop running boring campaigns and start building smarter, revenue-generating ones.

We dive into why focusing on targeting beats channel obsession, how brand awareness fuels real pipeline growth, and why marketers need to work hand-in-hand with sales for true impact. 


Plus, Guido shares fresh insights on using offline marketing creatively in a digital world.


🔥 Topics we cover:

  • 00:00 Introductions

  • 06:32 How to build campaigns that actually convert

  • 25:52 Secrets to better marketing-sales collaboration

  • 34:51 Creative offline strategies that modern marketers should steal

  • If you’re tired of playing it safe and want to stand out (and win), this one's for you.


    👋 Connect with Guido Nuijten on LinkedIn

    🔗 Learn more about Hoolty


    Subscribe and don’t miss future episodes on building marketing that actually drives revenue.

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    6 months ago
    48 minutes 17 seconds

    Demand Gen Confidential
    Cracking Marketing Attribution: Why Smart Marketers Embrace Complexity with Harry Hawk

    Advanced conversion signals and attribution are redefining paid efficiency. Join us in this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, where we dive deep into advanced marketing tactics with special guest Harry Hawk, a seasoned marketer with a wealth of experience. 

    Learn about the nuanced world of multi-touch attribution, AI in marketing, lift tests, and Harry's concept of deep funnel optimization that can significantly reduce Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) and shorten deal cycles. 

    Whether you're looking to enhance your marketing stack, understand the complexity of attribution, or just want to hear fascinating stories like Harry owning a New York City beach bar, tune in to this episode.


    00:00 - Introduction

    03:47 - 2025 Marketing Trends

    11:11 - Using AI Attribution

    37:07 - Deep Funnel Conversion Optimization for Google and Facebook

    01:21:59 - Using AI in your Marketing


    Credits

    • Revsure

    • Agent.ai

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    7 months ago
    1 hour 42 minutes 6 seconds

    Demand Gen Confidential
    Generative Engine Optimization: Essential Tactics for Modern Marketers w/ Frederik Hermann

    In this episode of Demand Gen Confidential, we sit down with Frederik Hermann, VP Marketing at Akia, to explore innovative marketing strategies and the future of digital marketing in the era of Generative Engine Optimization and AI.

    Frederik shares insights from his extensive background in marketing and experience with multiple tech startups. We dive into the evolution of SEO and the rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO).

    Learn practical tactics like implementing LLMs.txt, structured content, and making use of AI agents for market research and building ideal customer profiles. Frederik also discusses the importance of consistent branding and debunks some of the misconceptions around AI.

    Tune in to discover how marketers can stay ahead in this rapidly changing landscape.

    00:00 - Intro

    03:49 - Frederik's Background (LinkedIn | Website)

    05:37 - History around SEO and Digital Marketing

    13:58 - Generative Engine Optimization Tactics

    33:15 - How to Measure GEO ROI

    36:15 - AI Agents for Marketers

    41:53 - Closing


    Episode Resources

    • GEO Tactics Blog Post
    • Akia
    • LLMs.txt
    • ChatGPT
    • Perplexity
    • Claude -
    • Acquired Jensen Huang Interview
    • ChatGPT PR Strategy Source
    • Agent.AI
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    7 months ago
    43 minutes 36 seconds

    Demand Gen Confidential
    🎙 Demand Gen Confidential is the marketing podcast where your host - Logan Rivenes - will be talking with some of the most progressive marketers out there. Diving deep into marketing tactics, and discovering what’s actually working, to help you become a better marketer. In each episode, you'll walk away with actionable insights and a new perspective.