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Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
Shawna Lovin, MA, LPCS
68 episodes
3 days ago
Welcome to Between a Hot Mess and a Therapist, your not-so-typical self-help podcast for therapists, healers, and helpers. On this podcast, host Shawna Lovin, LPCS, a seasoned therapist with a rebellious spirit, teaches healers to break all the rules and rewrite the script of what it means to be a human and a healer while making you feel right at home in your messiness.
Every Wednesday, we’ll drop a new episode to help you feel seen in your own healing journey while giving you the tools to thrive in your messy, magical life.

✨ CEUs for Licensed Professionals available → New CEUs added quarterly ✨
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Welcome to Between a Hot Mess and a Therapist, your not-so-typical self-help podcast for therapists, healers, and helpers. On this podcast, host Shawna Lovin, LPCS, a seasoned therapist with a rebellious spirit, teaches healers to break all the rules and rewrite the script of what it means to be a human and a healer while making you feel right at home in your messiness.
Every Wednesday, we’ll drop a new episode to help you feel seen in your own healing journey while giving you the tools to thrive in your messy, magical life.

✨ CEUs for Licensed Professionals available → New CEUs added quarterly ✨
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Mental Health
Health & Fitness,
Alternative Health
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Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
67. Thanksgiving Chaos & Real Gratitude: The Art of Owning Your Mental Health

Thanksgiving has a way of bringing out the best in us… and the parts we’d rather hide.

The messy family dynamics, the overstimulation, the emotional landmines, the pressure to feel grateful on command.

In this episode, I’m naming the quiet part out loud: gratitude isn’t always pretty, peaceful, or polished.

Sometimes it’s gritty. Sometimes it’s tired. Sometimes it’s the shaky breath you take in the bathroom before you walk back into the noise.

As a mental health therapist, a projector, someone who’s lived through more burnout cycles than I care to admit, I’ve learned that gratitude inside chaos hits different. It becomes less about the “list” and more about the nervous system—what your body can hold, what you’re releasing, and what still needs space.

Inside this conversation:

  • How to practice gratitude when your life feels loud and your brain feels crowded
  • The nervous system side of the holiday season overwhelm
  • Why chaotic gratitude actually builds more emotional resilience than the curated version
  • The real mental health work that happens behind closed doors—before the table is set
  • How slowing down creates room for the moments you usually miss

This is not the “be grateful no matter what” pep talk.

It’s the reminder that your mental health counts just as much as the holiday expectations.

And that gratitude can coexist with grief, frustration, exhaustion, and being human.

If Thanksgiving feels messy this year, you’re not doing it wrong.

You’re just telling the truth.

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✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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5 days ago
14 minutes 6 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
66. How Slowing Living Brought Me Back Into My Own Life (A Full-Circle Wedding Story)

In this episode, I share the story of watching my niece—the same little girl who once scattered petals at my wedding—step into her own. This isn’t a story about weddings. It’s about time, presence, identity, and the nervous system capacity required to actually feel your own life.

If I had still been living inside burnout, emotional overload, and survival pace, I would have missed the meaning of this moment entirely. This episode explores what happens when you slow down enough to take in your own story — and how travel, transitions, and family dynamics can reveal who you’ve become.

This is an invitation to breathe, remember, and be here for your life.

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Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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1 week ago
12 minutes 16 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
65. A Projector in a Generator World: Stop Proving Your Worth in Systems That’s Built to Burn You

If you’ve ever been called “inconsistent,” “too emotional,” or “not a team player,” this episode is your mirror. Shawna Lovin, therapist and emotional Projector, unpacks the exhaustion and quiet rebellion of trying to prove your worth inside systems built for endless doing. Learn how resentment becomes your reroute, perfection becomes your poison, and sovereignty starts the moment you stop performing care for a system that can’t see it.

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Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 weeks ago
13 minutes 40 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
64. Healing in Motion: How Travel Is Becoming My Next Chapter for Burnout Prevention

After 25 years in the mental health field, I’ve witnessed too many helpers—therapists, first responders, teachers, and healers—burn out while trying to hold space for everyone else. In this episode, I share why the next evolution of my own healing isn’t found in the therapy room, but in travel, adventure, and intentional experiences that restore the nervous system and reignite wonder. From curating wellness retreats to reclaiming joy, I explore how stepping outside our daily rhythm can be a powerful act of self-care and burnout prevention for those who spend their lives caring for others.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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3 weeks ago
14 minutes 28 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
63. Why Adults Need to Feel Wild Too: Halloween, Rituals & the Nervous System of Play

Halloween isn’t just candy and costumes — it’s a culturally sanctioned invitation to play, to flirt with the shadow, and to shake off the weight of constant caretaking. In this episode, we explore why helpers, healers, and therapists often lose touch with their wildness, what our nervous systems need from ritual and release, and how embodied joy becomes medicine for burnout. This is for anyone who thinks adulting stole their capacity to play and wants a permission slip to reclaim it without shame.

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Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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1 month ago
21 minutes 8 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
62. The Helper’s Marriage: 18 Years of Learning to Love Without Burning Out

Marriage after 18 years isn’t just anniversaries and celebrations—it’s the messy, quiet, everyday reality of living with someone who, like you, is a helper. In this episode, I explore what it’s like when both partners are therapists, healers, or helpers: juggling nervous systems, energy, and emotional labor while trying to stay connected. We’ll talk about the magic in the mundane, the tension beneath the surface, and how showing up fully—messy, human, and embodied—creates lasting connection, growth, and intimacy.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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1 month ago
14 minutes 47 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
61. When Friendships Shift: Navigating Midlife Connection as a Helper

You help people navigate rejection, belonging, and boundaries every day — but what happens when you’re the one left out? Midlife friendships are tricky: they start by proximity, convenience, or kids, and then slowly shift. In this episode, I pull back the curtain on the quiet shame, hidden hurt, and nervous system impact of realizing your “friend group” isn’t what it used to be. I share the messy middle of staying connected while honoring your needs, and how to show up fully in friendships — not as a fixer or helper, but as a human who belongs as they are.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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1 month ago
16 minutes 46 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
60. You’re Not Locked In, You’re Stuck: How Helpers Sabotage Their Energy

You’ve been hustling, over-giving, and white-knuckling your way through the last quarter, telling yourself it’s “professionalism,” “dedication,” or just a “finish strong” mindset. But here’s the truth nobody wants to admit: you’re not locked-in—you’re stuck.

In this episode, we pull back the curtain on the hidden lies that keep therapists, healers, and helpers trapped in exhaustion and survival mode. I’ll break down how overfunctioning, performative boundaries, and chasing one more certification are quietly draining your energy. We’ll talk about the fear beneath it—the terror of losing identity, relevance, or control—and why ignoring your nervous system signals only deepens burnout.

Most importantly, I’ll share the pivot that finally unlocked my energy: learning to name the lies, tend to my nervous system, choose less instead of more, and show up fully—without forcing, overperforming, or burning out. This isn’t about quitting your profession; it’s about reclaiming your energy, presence, and capacity to serve without sacrificing yourself in the process.

By the end of this episode, you’ll know how to spot the patterns keeping you stuck and the first steps toward a real-life “great unlock.

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Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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1 month ago
14 minutes 43 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
59. OMG, She Turned 13: Parenting with Emotional Boundaries, Nervous System Awareness & Human Design

Parenting a teen can feel like starting over. At 13, kids push boundaries, test limits, and suddenly everything you thought you knew about guiding them feels useless. In this episode, I pull back the curtain on the messy middle of parenting, the tension between guiding and letting go, and how supporting my daughter through selective mutism and dyslexia has taught me patience, radical listening, and honoring her pace. Plus, we explore tools for showing up authentically without over-controlling, emotional clarity in the nervous system, and how Human Design can help you navigate adolescence with more ease.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 months ago
15 minutes 14 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
58. Aligning with Your Unique Energy and Blending Alternative Practices (ft. me, Shawna Lovin, LPC-S) on the Therapy Tea Podcast

This week, I’m bringing you a replay of my conversation with Karen and Jazmin from the Therapy Tea Podcast, and it’s a juicy one. We pulled back the curtain on what it really means to step into this profession, the myths people still hold about therapists, and how I’ve carved out a path that actually aligns with my energy instead of burning me out.


In this conversation, I share my very unconventional journey into becoming a counselor, why direct client work wasn’t my forever lane (yes, I said it), and how Human Design and alternative wellness practices reshaped not only how I work—but how I live.


We talk about:

✨ The messy, nonlinear path into the mental health field

✨ How to stop forcing yourself into work that drains you—even if it looks “successful” on paper

✨ Blending traditional training with alternative practices like Human Design for deeper alignment

✨ Why authenticity matters more than fitting the mold in this profession


This is one of those raw, real talks where I name the things most people won’t say out loud about the mental health world. If you’ve ever wondered what it looks like to build a career and a life that actually fit you, this conversation will spark something.



Resources mentioned: 

 • Balance is B.S.: How to Have a Work. Life. Blend. by Tamara Loehr

 • Why We Can't Sleep: Women's New Midlife Crisis by Ada Calhoun

 • The Little Book of Hygge: Danish Secrets to Happy Living by Meik Wiking

 • Tina Vitolo (unconventional therapist in Atlanta): https://www.facebook.com/groups/blacksheepguide

 • Understanding Human Design: The New Science of Astrology by Karen Curry

 • Watch the Marvel movies in cinematic timeline order: https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/mcu-timeline-order-disney-plus

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Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 months ago
1 hour 38 minutes 51 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
57. Stop Ghosting Yourself: Why Helpers Need a Different Kind of Rest

Rest for therapists, healers, educators, and first responders isn’t one-size-fits-all. Our nervous systems are wired differently, and the kind of “rest” the world tells us to take doesn’t always touch the real exhaustion we carry. In this episode, I’m unpacking the hidden burnout cycle of helpers, why traditional rest often fails us, and how Human Design + nervous system awareness can help us stop ghosting ourselves and reclaim sustainable energy.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 months ago
11 minutes 52 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
56. The Shadow Side of Human Design

What if Human Design isn’t the next life hack, but actually the antidote to hustle culture? In this episode, I’m calling out the performative way so many of us use our charts—like a to-do list—and how that just feeds burnout. I’ll share the story of how I tried to “apply” my design like a formula and fell flat on my face, why our nervous systems rebel against this approach, and what it looks like to reframe Human Design as a practice of deconditioning and soul-rooted living.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 months ago
17 minutes 41 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
55. Midlife what? Men have a ‘Crisis’ and Women get labeled ‘Crazy’

Midlife burnout isn’t just about aging; it’s about identity, hormones, and the nervous system colliding. In this episode, I unpack the messy truth behind the so-called “midlife crisis’ — and why women’s experiences get dismissed while men’s get glamorized. I share my own journey of leaning into Human Design to get clear on what was burnout, what was biology, and what was bullshit. If you’ve ever wondered why life feels messy, urgent, exhausted, questioning everything, or just trying to figure out who you are now, and unsustainable in your 40s (or why your nervous system feels like it’s short-circuiting), this conversation is for you.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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2 months ago
13 minutes 21 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
54. The Quiet Shift: Listening to Your Heart When Everything Feels Too Much

The kids are back in school. The routines are settling. And suddenly, you realize the way you’ve been doing life isn’t working anymore. In this episode, I sit with the messy, quiet, still moments that come before a shift, explore the subtle resistance to change, and tease a bold pivot in my own life — one I haven’t spoken out loud yet. This one’s for anyone trying to decide for themselves, not because someone else told them to, and who wants to avoid burnout while stepping into something new.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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3 months ago
15 minutes 50 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
53. The Mother Wound Nobody Wants to Talk About

You thought you were emotionally resilient, but what if you were just emotionally invisible? In this episode, we rip the mask off childhood conditioning, explore how your relationship with your mother reflects the patterns you couldn’t see growing up, and what it takes to finally break the spell. This one’s for the ones who are tired of pretending to be fine, even as therapists, healers, or the ones who know better.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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3 months ago
18 minutes 59 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
52. I Quit Being a Therapist

What happens when the very path that was supposed to set you free starts to feel like a cage? In this raw, honest episode, I break down the real reason I quit being a therapist — not because I stopped caring, but because I started waking up. We talk about the unspoken grief, the body-based betrayal, and what it means to feel regulated and resentful at the same time. If you’ve ever wondered, “Is it me, or is the system broken?” — this one's for you.

I’m naming the quiet parts out loud, walking you through the messy middle, and sharing what it looked like to trust a frequency shift even when nothing made sense on paper. This is about quitting the performance, not the purpose.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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3 months ago
12 minutes 34 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
51. The Myth of the Regulated Therapist

We’ve been sold a lie—that a “regulated woman” is always calm, always composed, always in control. In this episode, I’m breaking down the performance of regulation, what it actually means to live in a body that’s healing, and why your nervous system doesn’t need more discipline—it needs more truth. We’ll explore the messy middle, the shadow side no one wants to name, and the real path back to your body. This isn’t about fixing yourself. It’s about reclaiming your rhythm. 

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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3 months ago
10 minutes 17 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
50. What If You’re Not Burnt Out, You’re Bored?

Burnout gets all the airtime. But boredom? That’s the one we don’t say out loud.

What if your exhaustion isn’t from doing too much, but from doing what no longer lights you up?

What if the problem isn’t your capacity, but the cage you built trying to be a “good” therapist or healer?

In this episode, we’re talking about the soul-level boredom that masquerades as burnout. The dead air inside success. The moment you look around at the life you built and wonder, “Is this all there is?” If you’re craving more—but don’t even know what that “more” looks like yet—this one’s for you.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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4 months ago
13 minutes 47 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
49. The Professionalism Trap & The Mindf*ck of Being a “Good” Healer

What if the things you were praised for—your professionalism, your emotional labor, your commitment, your consistency—are the exact things draining you?

This isn’t another burnout pep talk.

It’s a full-body reckoning.

We’re going deep into the identity collapse, the invisible labor, the mask of professionalism, and what it costs to keep being “the strong one” in a system that doesn’t make room for your humanity.

This is about healing work that doesn’t devour your nervous system.

This is about staying in your calling without disappearing into it.

And this is your reminder: You’re not broken. You’re just outgrowing the performance.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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4 months ago
15 minutes 2 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
48. Why Traveling with Family Feels Like a Nervous System Exorcism?

You thought you needed a vacation. What you got was a nervous system exorcism.

This episode dives into the real reason traveling with family feels so emotionally loaded—and how it mirrors the deeper patterns you carry in your life, work, and healing. If you’ve ever returned from a trip more tired than when you left, this one’s gonna hit like truth serum.

Got a Question? SUBMIT IT HERE


Get your FREE Human Design Chart HERE or Sign up for a Human Design Reading HERE


✨ CEUs available for Texas Licensed Professionals HERE ✨


This podcast was brought to you by Healing Roots Wellness & Botanicals. For more information, please visit www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com. Although Shawna is a licensed counselor in the State of Texas, this podcast is not therapy and should not be used as a therapeutic intervention. Many of the practices and products mentioned are for educational and informational purposes only. Should you need support, please seek appropriate, qualified, and licensed professionals.

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4 months ago
10 minutes 32 seconds

Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
Welcome to Between a Hot Mess and a Therapist, your not-so-typical self-help podcast for therapists, healers, and helpers. On this podcast, host Shawna Lovin, LPCS, a seasoned therapist with a rebellious spirit, teaches healers to break all the rules and rewrite the script of what it means to be a human and a healer while making you feel right at home in your messiness.
Every Wednesday, we’ll drop a new episode to help you feel seen in your own healing journey while giving you the tools to thrive in your messy, magical life.

✨ CEUs for Licensed Professionals available → New CEUs added quarterly ✨