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Reshape and Recover
Julie and Tony Kleinhans
88 episodes
1 day ago
Find real hope and practical help for your weight-loss journey — starting today. Julie, who lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for over 17 years, shares simple, faith-based and practical tips you can apply right away. Alongside her husband Tony, a coach and counselor with over 25 years of experience, they offer biblical encouragement, mindset tools, and practical strategies to help you overcome emotional eating and move toward a healthy weight. Their Christ-centered 12-Step approach is the foundation, guiding you one step at a time into lasting freedom with food.
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Find real hope and practical help for your weight-loss journey — starting today. Julie, who lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for over 17 years, shares simple, faith-based and practical tips you can apply right away. Alongside her husband Tony, a coach and counselor with over 25 years of experience, they offer biblical encouragement, mindset tools, and practical strategies to help you overcome emotional eating and move toward a healthy weight. Their Christ-centered 12-Step approach is the foundation, guiding you one step at a time into lasting freedom with food.
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RR85 | Bill W.’s Story — The Beginning of Hope

If you’ve ever wondered why you keep going back to the foods that hurt you—even when you truly want to change—Bill W.’s story might surprise you, challenge you, and give you real hope.


In this episode, Tony and I dive into the life of Bill W., the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, and I share why his journey matters so deeply for those of us recovering from overeating, sugar addiction, emotional eating, or any compulsive behavior. I used to think, “I’m not an alcoholic—so why should his story matter to me?” But once I heard what he went through, I realized I had lived the same pattern with food.


Bill tried everything to control his drinking. He made promises. He swore off “for good.” He wanted to stop… but he couldn’t. And if you’ve struggled with food, sugar, or binge eating, you know exactly what that feels like.

In this episode, we talk about:

✨ How Bill’s early life, war experiences, and loneliness fed his addiction

✨ Why willpower kept failing him—and why it fails us with food

✨ The moment he realized “just one drink” (or one bite) is the doorway back into addiction

✨ How God used a transformed friend to interrupt his downward spiral

✨ The spiritual experience that finally broke the bondage

✨ How his journey became the foundation of the 12 Steps

✨ Why helping others was the key to staying sober—and why that matters for food recovery

✨ The biblical principles that quietly shape every step of the program


I also share a piece of my own story—how I came into recovery already believing in God but never once asking Him to help me with food. I thought He had “bigger things to deal with.” But once I finally invited Him in, everything started to change. Little by little, God gave me the strength I never had on my own.


Bill W.’s story reminds all of us that:

• We can’t fix ourselves by trying harder.

• God can do for us what we cannot do for ourselves.

• Community and accountability protect our freedom.

• Our stories—especially the messy parts—can bring hope to someone else.


If you’re feeling stuck, discouraged, or tired of trying to change through sheer willpower, I pray this episode encourages you. God still rescues. He still restores. And He still uses ordinary people—people like you and me—to carry hope to others who are hurting.

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3 days ago
21 minutes 46 seconds

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RR84 | Staying Free from Overeating and Filled Up with God

Have you ever lost weight or gained freedom from food — only to fall back into old habits later? Jesus warned in Luke 11 that when the “house” stays empty, the same temptations return stronger than before.


In this episode, Julie and Tony Kleinhans explore what it means to “keep your house full” — spiritually, emotionally, and physically. You’ll learn how to guard your recovery by staying connected to God, your community, and daily habits that nurture lasting freedom.


Through biblical insight and personal stories, Julie and Tony share how to replace old cravings with new purpose, peace, and joy. True recovery isn’t just about what you stop doing — it’s about what you fill your life with.


💛 “Keep your house full — with God’s presence, His Word, and His people.”


Listen now and stay encouraged on your journey to lasting freedom.

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1 week ago
20 minutes 25 seconds

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RR83 | Deepening Our Connection with God for Recovery from Overeating

Ever feel like you just don’t have time to pray in the morning? Between work, family, and everything else, quiet time with God can easily slip away — and before we know it, we’re trying to handle life in our own strength.


In this episode, Tony and I share how Step 11 — prayer and meditation — helps us stay connected to God’s will, calm our cravings, and find peace in daily recovery. I talk about how getting up just a little earlier and planning ahead the night before transformed my mornings, while Tony shares biblical insights and practical tools for keeping your heart focused on God throughout the day.


You’ll discover how to:

✅ Start your day with prayer and intention

✅ Meditate on Scripture the biblical way (not the world’s way)

✅ Trust God to guide your thoughts, words, and actions

✅ Build a spiritual rhythm that strengthens your recovery


Remember, time with God isn’t another task — it’s the foundation for everything else.


💛 “Be still, and know that I am God.” — Psalm 46:10


#christianweightloss #faithandwellness #12stepswithChrist #reshapeandrecover

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2 weeks ago
26 minutes 34 seconds

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RR82 | How to Eat Healthy When You're a Guest

Ever feel awkward saying no to certain foods when you’re visiting friends or family? In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie and Tony share biblical wisdom and practical strategies for staying faithful to your food boundaries — even when you’re surrounded by temptation.


Drawing from Daniel 1:8 and other key Scriptures, they discuss how Daniel stood firm at the king’s table and how we can do the same at the dinner table today. You’ll learn how to prepare your heart in prayer, make decisions in advance, and respond graciously to “food pushers” without guilt or embarrassment.


This Christ-centered conversation will encourage you to:

✅ Set healthy boundaries around food with confidence and grace

✅ Recognize that your body is God’s temple (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)

✅ Replace guilt and pressure with peace and self-control through the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23)

✅ Stay true to your recovery plan when eating away from home


Whether you’re in faith-based recovery from overeating or simply want to make healthier choices, this episode will strengthen your resolve to honor God with every bite.


💛 Want ongoing encouragement and structure for your Christian weight-loss journey?

Join our supportive community at https://www.reshapeandrecover.com.


#christianweightloss #faithbasedrecovery #overcomingovereating #biblicalweightloss #faithbasedwellness #reshapeandrecover #christianpodcast

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3 weeks ago
23 minutes 16 seconds

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RR81 | Break Free from Old Eating Habits with a New Heart

Are you tired of trying to change your eating habits through sheer willpower — only to fall back into the same patterns? In this episode of the Reshape and Recover Podcast, Julie and Tony Kleinhans share how real transformation starts not with willpower, but with God’s power.


Drawing from Ezekiel 36:26, they unpack God’s promise to give us “a new heart and a new spirit.” You’ll learn how surrendering your food struggles to Him can soften a hardened heart, renew your desires, and bring lasting change — one step of obedience at a time.


💛 In this Christ-centered discussion, you’ll discover:

✅ How to recognize “heart of stone” thinking — denial, excuses, and self-reliance

✅ What it means to let God do the transforming instead of striving on your own

✅ Why abstaining from binge foods isn’t punishment — it’s freedom

✅ How prayer, accountability, and the 12 Steps work together to create lasting change

✅ Practical ways to invite the Holy Spirit into your daily eating decisions


If you’ve ever felt stuck, resistant, or hopeless about your relationship with food, this episode will remind you that God’s grace is powerful enough to break every stronghold.


✨ Listen to “Break Free from Old Eating Habits Through a New Heart” on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or at ReshapeAndRecover.com.


#christianweightloss #faithbasedrecovery #overeatinghelp #biblicalweightloss #emotionalhealing #christianhealth #faithandfitness #reshapeandrecover

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1 month ago
20 minutes 22 seconds

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RR80 | Bible Verses for Life’s Struggles (Instead of Turning to Food)

When life feels overwhelming, food can seem like the easiest comfort. But God offers us something far better — His Word and His promises. In this episode, Julie and Tony share powerful Bible verses for common struggles like fear, anxiety, depression, shame, anger, loneliness, and more. Each passage is a reminder that God sees us, loves us, and is present in every situation we face.


Through Scripture and personal stories, Julie and Tony show how turning to God’s Word can calm anxious thoughts, lift a heavy heart, and give strength to persevere — without running to food for relief. You’ll come away with practical verses you can keep close at hand to guide you through tough moments and point you back to God’s truth.


✨ Key Takeaway: We don’t need to go to food when we’re struggling — we can go to God, who promises peace, strength, and hope for every season of life.


📖 Want these Scriptures in one place? Download the free Bible Verse PDF mentioned in this episode at reshapeandrecover.com/resources.

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1 month ago
24 minutes 20 seconds

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RR79 | Step 10 - Living in Daily Freedom from Overeating

Step 10 is the “daily maintenance step” of recovery — helping us stay spiritually fit, abstinent from binge foods, and free one day at a time. In this episode of the Reshape and Recover Podcast, Julie and Tony explain how a daily Tenth Step keeps us on track with God, prevents relapse, and helps us make amends quickly before problems pile up.


You’ll learn:

• Why Step 10 is like a “mini Steps 4–9” practiced daily

• How reviewing Steps 1–3 keeps us anchored in God’s strength, not our own

• Practical tools like journaling, prayer, and the SOAP method to deepen your daily walk

• Scriptures to guide your practice, including 2 Corinthians 13:5, Lamentations 3:40, and Psalm 25:4

• The daily benefits of Step 10: clarity, peace, a stronger walk with God, and freedom from relapse


Plus, Julie shares how her Daily Food and Step Journal (available on Amazon) can help you apply Step 10 every single day.


Listen in and discover how to keep moving forward in freedom with God’s help.

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1 month ago
25 minutes 20 seconds

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RR78 | How to Navigate Halloween Without Giving in to Candy Temptation

Halloween can be one of the hardest days for those of us in recovery from overeating — candy bowls at work, leftover treats, and parties that center around food can all stir up powerful cravings. But with prayer, a plan, and support from our recovery community, we can walk through this season with peace and even joy.


In this episode, we share faith-based strategies to prepare your heart before Halloween, stay grounded in God’s strength during temptation, and reflect afterward with gratitude — not guilt.


We talk about practical tools and Scriptures like:

🍬 1 Corinthians 10:13 — God always provides a way out of temptation

🕯 Proverbs 27:12 — The prudent see danger and take refuge

🙏 Psalm 73:26 — “God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever”


You’ll hear real-life stories, gentle humor, and biblical encouragement to help you face candy temptation with confidence — remembering that your worth isn’t defined by what you eat, but by who you belong to.


✨ Key Takeaway: We don’t have to rely on willpower alone. When we lean on God’s strength, plan ahead, and stay connected to community, we can enjoy Halloween without giving in to candy cravings.


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1 month ago
20 minutes 27 seconds

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RR77 | Why You Can’t Do Recovery Alone - The Power of Community

Recovery feels so much harder when you try to do it alone. In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie shares why community is essential for lasting change — especially when quitting feels tempting. With encouragement, accountability, and prayer from others, we can lean on each other for support and keep moving forward.


You’ll hear:

✅ Why isolation makes relapse more likely

✅ How encouragement and prayer help us persevere

✅ Practical ways to lean on community when you’re struggling

✅ Biblical wisdom from Ecclesiastes 4:9–10, Galatians 6:2, Hebrews 10:24–25, and Galatians 6:9


Julie also opens up about her own journey — how honesty, community, and God’s Word helped her lose 90 pounds and keep it off for over 17 years. The truth is, perseverance isn’t about never wanting to quit. It’s about not quitting alone.


📖 “Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.” — Galatians 6:9


➡️ If you’ve been trying to manage overeating in secret, this episode will remind you that you don’t have to walk this road by yourself.


✨ Ready for real support? Join the Reshape and Recover membership today — just $12/month with a 7-day free trial. Get access to weekly meetings, encouragement, and a Christ-centered community that will walk with you every step of the way. Learn more at reshapeandrecover.com.


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1 month ago
20 minutes 5 seconds

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RR76 | Christ-Centered Tools for Overcoming Conflict and Emotional Eating

Stressful relationships can be one of the biggest triggers for overeating. When emotions run high, it’s easy to reach for food instead of peace. In this episode, Julie and Tony introduce a practical, Christ-centered tool called IVAA (Identify, Validate, Align, Action) — also known as IVA² — to help calm conflict, protect relationships, and avoid stress-driven eating.

You’ll learn how to:

• Identify the emotion the other person is feeling.

• Validate their feelings so they feel heard and understood.

• Align the situation with God’s Word for wisdom and peace.

• Action – make a plan for now and for the future to prevent repeated conflict.

Julie and Tony also share practical tips, such as using ice or time-outs to calm emotions, and they connect IVAA with biblical truth that helps us respond with grace instead of reacting in anger. Special thanks to Dr. Scott Gostchock, their coach, for his revisions to this conceptual piece on Emotional Intelligence.

In addition to IVAA, they also highlight three other powerful approaches for building healthier relationships and reducing stress that leads to overeating:

• Step Four of the 12 Steps – working through resentments to uncover the deeper issues.

• Love & Respect by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs – understanding the blessing cycle in marriage and relationships.

• The Five Love Languages by Dr. Gary Chapman – learning how to give and receive love in ways that matter most.

If you’ve ever struggled with turning to food when relationships get tense, this episode will give you biblical tools and faith-based strategies to break that cycle and invite God’s peace into your interactions.


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2 months ago
26 minutes 16 seconds

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RR75 | Step Nine Finding Peace Through Making Amends

Is Step Nine really the scariest step of recovery—or the most freeing?

For many people in recovery, the thought of making amends feels overwhelming. But those who walk through Step Nine often describe it as one of the most life-changing parts of their journey—where real peace begins to take root.


In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie and Tony Kleinhans share how making amends is about so much more than apologies. It’s about releasing resentments, restoring relationships where possible, and finding the freedom that comes when we let go of guilt and shame.


Julie, who has lost 90 pounds and kept it off for more than 17 years, and Tony, a coach with over 25 years of experience, offer faith-based encouragement and practical wisdom to help you:


♦ Understand why Step Nine is about action, not just words

♦ Learn the difference between reconciliation and “living amends”

♦ Find courage to move forward, even when fear and anxiety show up

♦ Experience the freedom that comes from surrendering old hurts to God

♦ Take steady, prayerful steps toward peace and healing


✨ If you’ve ever struggled with broken relationships, unresolved guilt, or the weight of resentment, this episode will remind you that you don’t have to carry those burdens forever. With God’s help, you can take one step at a time toward freedom, forgiveness, and lasting recovery.

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2 months ago
21 minutes 57 seconds

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RR74 | A Christian Approach to Health and Body Image

Are you tired of chasing a “perfect body” that never feels good enough?


In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie and Tony Kleinhans share how real health and freedom come—not from obsessing over appearance—but from honoring God with the body He’s given you.


After losing 90 pounds and keeping it off for over 17 years, Julie knows firsthand the struggle with food, body image, and self-worth. Together with Tony, a coach with 25+ years of experience, they reveal how faith and the 12 steps can transform not just your eating habits, but your entire outlook on health.


What you’ll discover in this episode:

• Why your body is a temple and a gift, not a project to perfect

• How to shift from “I have to lose weight” to “I want to honor God with my choices”

• Biblical truths that renew your self-image and replace comparison with gratitude

• Practical ways to eat, rest, and move as an act of worship

• How to avoid the trap of extremes and embrace balance


✨ If you’ve ever struggled with emotional eating, body shame, or the pressure to measure up, this episode will encourage you to see yourself through God’s eyes and take steps toward lasting peace.

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2 months ago
15 minutes 43 seconds

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RR73 | No Shame in the Struggle

So many of us try to eat healthy and stick to a plan, only to find ourselves trapped in the same cycle of snacking and overeating. The truth is, moderation doesn’t work with addictive foods — and it’s not about weak willpower.


In this episode, Julie and Tony talk about why certain foods hijack the brain like drugs or alcohol, why the struggle is not your fault, and how to step out of shame and into freedom. Together, they explore the science of food addiction, the spiritual battle behind it, and God’s Word that reminds us there is no condemnation in Christ.


If you’ve ever felt ashamed of your eating or like a failure in your recovery, this conversation will encourage you. You’ll be reminded that the struggle is part of the journey, that Christ offers real freedom, and that community, planning, and God’s grace are the path forward.


➡️ Ready to go deeper? Join our new Starter Membership for just $12/month. It gives you access to our community, weekly support meetings, and The Pantry resource library. Sign up at reshapeandrecover.com.


#christianweightloss #overeatingrecovery #faithbasedrecovery #christiansupportgroup


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2 months ago
23 minutes 21 seconds

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RR72 | How to Avoid Snacking with the 3 Ps

Have you ever told yourself you wouldn’t snack—only to find yourself halfway through a bag of chips without even realizing it? I’ve been there too. Snacking might feel harmless, but it’s one of the quickest ways to derail healthy eating, recovery, and peace of mind.


In this episode, Tony and I share what we call the 3 Ps—Planning, Prayer, and People. These three things work together to break the snacking cycle and help you stay on track without relying on willpower alone.


You’ll hear practical tips for meal planning, encouragement to pray in the moment of temptation, and the importance of accountability and community when it comes to lasting change. We also share powerful Scriptures that remind us God cares about every part of our lives—including our relationship with food.


➡️ Ready to go deeper? Join our new Starter Membership for just $12/month. It gives you access to our community, weekly support meetings, and The Pantry resource library. Sign up at reshapeandrecover.com.


#christianweightloss #overeatingrecovery #faithbasedrecovery #christiansupportgroup

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3 months ago
29 minutes 16 seconds

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RR71 | The Addiction Cycle and the Path to Freedom

The Addiction Cycle and the Path to Freedom

Ever wonder why you can’t stop at “just one”? Sugar, processed foods, and carbs can hijack your brain’s reward system—creating cravings, guilt, and the urge to do it all over again. In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie and Tony reveal how the addiction cycle works, why willpower alone isn’t enough, and the biblical path to lasting freedom.


You’ll discover:

• How addictive foods mimic the effects of drugs on the brain

• The 12-step process that gets to the root causes of overeating

• A simple “STOP” strategy to help you break free

• Why community is the key to long-term success


Full of Scripture, encouragement, and practical tools, this episode will help you replace frustration with peace—one step at a time.


Scriptures referenced: John 8:32, 1 Corinthians 6:19, Philippians 4:8, 1 Corinthians 10:13, Galatians 5:25, Ecclesiastes 4:9–10, Romans 8:1


💛 Want help overcoming food cravings and breaking the cycle for good? Join our Christ-centered 12-step membership at Reshape and Recover.


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3 months ago
22 minutes 5 seconds

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RR70 | Step 8 - Healing for Our Broken Lives

Step 8: Healing for Our Broken Lives

In this episode, we walk through Step Eight of the Christ-centered 12-step journey: Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all. This isn’t just about writing names — it’s about beginning a process of healing, restoration, and forgiveness.


We explore how broken relationships often drive emotional eating and how God uses this step to set us free — not just from guilt, but from the patterns that kept us stuck. You'll learn how to begin your list with wisdom and prayer, how to offer living amends when direct contact isn't appropriate, and how to forgive others — and yourself — with the help of the Holy Spirit.


With real-life insight, biblical truth, and gentle encouragement, this episode will help you move forward in recovery with peace, purpose, and God’s grace.


If you are enjoying this podcast, please like, review and share with others! We would appreciate your support so much!


📖 Scriptures: Psalm 139:23–24, Philippians 2:13, Romans 12:18, Proverbs 3:5–6, 1 John 1:9, Colossians 3:13


#christianweightloss #overeatingrecovery #faithbasedrecovery #12steprecovery #christianpodcast #healingthroughchrist #forgivenessjourney #emotionalhealing #OvereatersAnonymous #OA recovery

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3 months ago
21 minutes 5 seconds

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RR69 | Janette’s Story: Healing Through Steps 4 & 5

In this powerful episode, Janette shares how working through Steps 4 and 5 of a Christ-centered 12-step recovery journey helped her find deep emotional healing, forgiveness, and a renewed connection with God. With honesty and courage, she faced long-held resentments, especially in her relationship with her mother, and discovered the freedom that comes through surrender and spiritual reflection.


If you’ve ever struggled with unresolved emotional pain, family wounds, or spiritual barriers to recovery, Janette’s Christian testimony will remind you that healing is possible and that you are never alone on the journey.

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3 months ago
25 minutes 2 seconds

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RR68 | Faith-Fueled Recovery Begins with Simple Structure

Most of us know what to do — eat balanced meals, drink water, pray, move our bodies — but it’s easy to forget or fall off track in the chaos of daily life.


That’s why structure is so powerful in recovery… and in this episode, we’re exploring how the Fuel & Faith 5-Day Challenge brought peace, clarity, and progress to those who joined. Julie and Tony share biblical encouragement and practical tools that helped participants stick to their plan — and how you can too.


In this conversation, you’ll learn:

♦ Why structure isn’t legalism — it’s a spiritual tool

♦ How planning reflects God’s nature of order and peace

♦ The difference a written food plan or checklist can make

♦ What Scripture says about diligence, mindfulness, and self-control

♦ Real-life examples of how simple habits create lasting change


If you’ve ever felt like you just can’t seem to stick with it, this episode will encourage you to try again — not with more willpower, but with more structure, prayer, and purpose.


💡Resources mentioned in this episode:

♦ The Pantry: reshapeandrecover.com/pantryresources♦ Daily Food & Step Journal on Amazon

♦ Fuel & Faith Checklist + Sample Meal Plan


💬 What’s one habit you can keep this week? Tune in, be encouraged, and let God’s wisdom lead you toward lasting peace with food.

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4 months ago
21 minutes 8 seconds

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RR67 | When Willpower Isn’t Enough: The Power of Step 7

Struggling to change but feeling stuck in the same habits — even with prayer and effort? Step 7 of the 12 Steps offers a powerful shift: instead of relying on willpower, we humbly ask God to remove our shortcomings.


In this episode of Reshape and Recover, Julie and Tony explore the heart of Step 7 — what it really means to surrender our character defects to God without shame or self-condemnation. Together, they talk about the difference between humility and self-hate, and how to invite the Holy Spirit to not just remove what holds us back, but replace it with the fruit of the Spirit.


You'll hear:

• Why transformation is a spiritual process — not just a mental one

• How to approach God with confidence, not guilt

• The truth about what God thinks of you (hint: He rejoices over you!)

• Practical ways to start your day walking by the Spirit instead of the flesh


Whether you're deep in recovery or just beginning, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone — and that God’s grace really does change everything.


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4 months ago
16 minutes 50 seconds

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RR66 | Freedom from Overeating — and How to Achieve It

✨ We celebrate freedom on July 4th—but what about freedom from overeating? From guilt, shame, and starting over again and again?


In this episode of Reshape and Recover, we explore what true food freedom looks like through a Christ-centered lens. Julie and Tony share how lasting peace with food doesn’t come from willpower, but from walking daily with God — starting with prayer, spiritual surrender, and support.


You'll hear:

• Encouragement from Scripture to help you stand firm in your progress

• Practical insights on how to stay consistent through structure, connection, and grace

• Why isolation is a major red flag—and how to reconnect with purpose

• A powerful reminder that freedom isn’t about doing whatever we want, but about walking in God’s strength


“It is for freedom that Christ has set us free…” — Galatians 5:1


Whether you’re feeling stuck, ashamed, or simply tired of the struggle, this conversation will lift your spirit and remind you that freedom is possible — and worth fighting for.


🎧 Listen now and take your next step with God, one meal, one prayer, and one day at a time.

Grab our free resources by signing up for The Pantry today at https://www.reshapeandrecover.com/pantryresources


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4 months ago
21 minutes 19 seconds

Reshape and Recover
Find real hope and practical help for your weight-loss journey — starting today. Julie, who lost 90 pounds and has kept it off for over 17 years, shares simple, faith-based and practical tips you can apply right away. Alongside her husband Tony, a coach and counselor with over 25 years of experience, they offer biblical encouragement, mindset tools, and practical strategies to help you overcome emotional eating and move toward a healthy weight. Their Christ-centered 12-Step approach is the foundation, guiding you one step at a time into lasting freedom with food.