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PR: Done & Doner
Bob Geller
32 episodes
1 week ago
Hosted by Fusion PR executives, this podcast features top experts with advice that helps tech PR and marketing pros achieve the best results. You have questions? We have answers! Done, and doner.
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Hosted by Fusion PR executives, this podcast features top experts with advice that helps tech PR and marketing pros achieve the best results. You have questions? We have answers! Done, and doner.
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PR: Done & Doner
Nick Toso on a Better Way to Connect Expert Sources for News Stories

Can tech stave off a surge of synthetic spokespeople?  That is one question we discussed when I had Nick Toso on the podcast. He's the founder and CEO of Rolli, an AI-powered platform that provides state-of-the-art tools and resources for newsgathering.

Nick began his career in newsrooms (started at Voice of America, eventually becoming a bureau chief at CNN) and saw the need for a better way to find expert sources, leading him to launch Rolli six years ago.

The subject should be of greatinterest to journalists, and PR pros who want to increase success with Tier 1 and 2 media, especially broadcast. We had a wide-ranging conversation, covering these points and others:

  • The challenges of finding expert sources for breaking news.
  • How is Rolli different (do we need another news source matching service)?
  • Why email pitching your spokeseople has low odds for success.
  • How AI amplifies email pitch spam, and fake info and profiles.
  • Rolli cuts through the AI fog, connecting busy newsrooms with just the right source on demand.


Thanks, Nick, for coming on the podcast and sharing your insight.

Check it out at https://rolli.ai/

You can find Nick on LInkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicktoso/


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4 weeks ago
33 minutes 2 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Putting Agentic and GenAI to work in PR & marketing

The podcast is PR, Done & Doner, but it was the Nic and Vic show when we welcomed Nic Silver and Vikram Ekambaram to discuss the emerging world of AI agents and GenAI in PR and marketing. 

Both have built businesses and expertise applying the technology to areas like content, social media posting, demand generation, lead qualification, GTM and other use cases.

It was a wide ranging conversation that should be of interest to PR & marketing teams who want to get a better grasp on AI and how it can help meet their goals.

We covered these topics and others:

  • Favored tools for agents, GenAI, orchestration
  • Content acceleration and GTM solutions
  • Coping with rapid AI change; and resulting org. change
  • How to achieve success with the tech
  • What's next in AI

Thanks, Nic and Vik for joing the podcast and sharing your expertise. Here is their info if you'd like to reach out to the guests:

Nic Silver

https://digitalalchemy.social/ (newsletter)

https://www.nicsilver.com/  (website)

contact@nicsilver.com

Vikram Ekambaram

Contact info - vikram@vyceralsolutions.com

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vekambar

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3 months ago
36 minutes 34 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Stacey Ross Cohen on Navigating a Changing PR Landscape

In this episode we welcome back Co-Communications founder and CEO Stacey Ross Cohen. Stacey is an accomplished PR pro, an educator and also an author; we discussed her books Brand Up and Brand Up 2.0 before launching into the topic at hand: how to best adapt to the many changes rocking the PR world.

It was a lively chat. We compared notes on what's happening, implications for the field, and offered advice for agency and internal comms teams. There are a number of challenges - but each presents new opportunities, too:

  • AI: how is it helping, hurting, what should PR teams do?
  • Changes in media landscape, blurring lines of paid and earned.
  • Emergence of alternative media channels.
  • The importance of thinking holistically, and integration with other marketing channels.
  • Measuring and achieving the results that really count.


Thanks for tuning in! And thank you, Stacey, for sharing your insights.



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6 months ago
33 minutes 2 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Kourtney Jason, Former Journalist, Shares Top Media Tips

It was great having Kourtney Jason on the podcast. She was an entertainment journalist before launching and growing book publicity and digital marketing agency Pacific and Court.

Kourtney offered advice on how to improve media relations and results.

We discussed top tips, such as:

  • How to succeed in a changing media landscape.
  • The growth of alternative media channels, and how to best identify and pursue them.
  • Honing outreach based on timing, freelance vs. staff writers, headline consideration.
  • Thinking outside the email pitch box
  • A new media opportunity alerting service
  • Hacks for finding journo emails
  • The importance of research to understand an outlet's voice.


Thank you, Kourtney, for sharing your insight with our audience, and thanks , listeners, for tuning in. You can reach Kourtney at:

kourtney@pacificandcourt.com


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7 months ago
21 minutes 59 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Roundtable: Shake up your PR Program with Creativity and Big Ideas

Some may take a dim view of hype and publicity stunts. But both can be used in good ways to break out of the boxes of email pitches and press releases.

Joining host Bob Geller is Michael F. Schein, author of The Hype Handbook, and Joseph Dans, host of the Creativity and Tech in Business and Life radio show, on WTBQ AM and FM in the greater NY area.

We discussed the use of these things and big ideas to advance PR goals. It was a wide ranging conversation covering these points and others:

  • Hype history - Edward Bernays, PR inventor and hype artist
  • The cornerstones of ethical hype
  • Shake up your program with creativity and big ideas
  • Examples of successful stunts


Thanks, Michael and Joe, for joining the podcast and sharing your insight. You can find them at these Web addresses:

https://michaelfschein.com/

https://wtbq.com/wednesday/



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8 months ago
43 minutes 6 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Neal Schaffer on Setting the Social Media Agenda, 2025

In this episode, digital marketing consultant Neal Schaffer joined the podcast to discuss setting the social media agenda for 2025.

We talked about his new book, Digital Threads , and the importance of taking a digital-first approach in marketing. The conversation covered these points and others:

  • Putting the SES (search, email and social media) cornerstones in place.
  • Advice for PR teams
  • The most critical piece of advice for social media success.
  • Should you stay or should you go now? (The incursion of politics into social media - which networks to leave behind and which to join or double down on?)


Neal, I have truly enjoyed our collaboration over the years. Thanks for joining the podcast and sharing your insights.

Everyone, please check out his sitehttps://nealschaffer.com/to learn about Neal's services and books.

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9 months ago
39 minutes 37 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Author Ben Guttmann on Designing Simple and Impactful Messages

We invited Ben Guttmann, author of Simply Put, on the podcast. It's a book about how to intentionally design simple, clear and effective messages.

Ironically, getting simple is not necessarily easy. His book is a great guide, with practical, actionable tips, anectodes, and research behind the ideas.

In 30 minutes, Ben took us on a tour of the challenges, benefits and cornerstones of designing messages that can rise above the noise and hit home. We covered these topics and others:

  • The disconnect between message senders and receivers
  • Cornerstones of simple messages
  • Putting the ideas into practice
  • The importance of the 1000 most common words
  • How AI and other tools can help

You can connect with Ben and download the first chapter of Simply Put for free at ⁠BenGuttmann.com⁠. Also check out the ⁠Resources page⁠ for a tool that can help you write more simply.


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1 year ago
31 minutes 37 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Help, the AI ate my Web Search! Now what for SEO? Mark Traphagen Explains

AI has been invading every area of our lives since the launch of ChatGPT about a year-and-a-half ago. Especialy with how we find info and get answers online. What does this mean for marketers, especially those involved with content and SEO?

To find out, we invited our friend and SEO guru Mark Traphagen back onto the podcast.

It was a great conversation. In 20 minutes, Mark shed light on these areas:

  • How big a deal is AI for search and SEO?
  • State of the tech and how it works
  • Short and long term impact
  • Next steps for big brands and niche players
  • PR that can assist optimization efforts

Thanks, Mark for joining the podcast and sharing your insight!

You can find Mark and connect with him on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marktraphagen/

Also, he posts regularly on the seoClarity blog:

https://www.seoclarity.net/seo-content-learning-center

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1 year ago
22 minutes 32 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Shahar Sibershatz on Tech CEO vs. Co. Brands and Reputation

Shahar Silbershatz, CEO of reputation management and analytics firm Calber joined the podcast in a fascinating conversation about the impact of executive brands on company reputation and business. That was the just the main course; the 30 minutes were crammed with useful and actionable info across a number of topics that should be of great interest to comms pros. We discussed:

  • Comparisonn of brand measurement methods.
  • The emergence of always on, real-time surveys and panels.
  • Connection between CEO and company reputation.
  • How to convert data into PR results.
  • The decline of the tech and CEO brands, and what to do about it.
  • How to be an effective and visible thought leader in today's hyper-polarized, perilous world.

Shahar shared interesting case studies, especially around a PR campaign regarding Elon Musk and Tesla's business performance that got covered in Reuters, CNN and others.

He also dished on survey data about the reputations of tech CEOs, answering:

  • Which ones are most recognized and liked/disliked?
  • The two tech leaders who are most often associated with their respective companies.
  • Which tech leaders are liked more than their companies and vice versa?

We think you will enjoy and get a lot out of this podcast, so check it out. And thanks, Shahar, for joining, and sharing your insight.

To get in touch with Shahar, you can connect with him on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/silbershatz/

Caliber Website https://www.groupcaliber.com/

In Tech we Trust? post https://www.groupcaliber.com/in-tech-we-trust/

CNN story: What's wrong with Tesla? https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/07/business/tesla-ev-sales-slowdown-stock/index.html


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1 year ago
32 minutes 29 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Saul Marquez on How to Build your Brand with a CEO Podcast

Podcasts have taken off, and many are seeking to leverage the medium for brand building and thought leadership. 

Most PR teams have likely by now gotten involved with pitching podcasts and getting spokespeople on the shows. But what about launching a CEO podcast?

In this episode, PR, Done and Doner host Bob Geller spoke with Saul Marquez, the CEO and Founder of Outcomes Rocket, a globally recognized digital marketing agency and podcast of the name. Saul also hosts the show, which features interviews with the most inspiring leaders in healthcare.

We had a great chat in which Saul demysitified the process of launching a CEO/executive podcast, and shared interesting data and insights about the benefits and potential ROI. Here are some of the questions and points we discussed:

  • The growth in CEO podcasters and listeners
  • Podcasting to drive top of funnel awareness
  • Steps to building a successful CEO podcast
  • Goal setting, analytics, ROI
  • Saul's 4 tips for executive podcasters

During the show, Saul shared some interesting third party research findings, e.g. 55% of business owners and founders listen to podcasts daily. You can download the report here:

https://lowerstreet.co/blog/reach-ceos-and-other-key-decision-makers-with-podcasts

We hope you enjoy the episode. Feel free to contact Saul at saul@outcomesrocket.com

Thanks, Saul for participating and sharing your insights.

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1 year ago
36 minutes 56 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Interviews that Went off the Rails in 2023

For this end-of-year epsisode, we invited a roundtable of comms experts to critique high profile videos of interviews that went off the rails in 2023.

We discussed what went wrong, what went right, and offered tips (and yes, maybe a little snark), through the lens of long time PR pros.  Participating were:

  • Bob Geller, host
  • Jordant Chanofsky, Fusion PR CEO & Founder
  • Olga Shmuklyer, Fusion PR SVP
  • Mark Prindel, Fusion PR Director

It was a lot of fun (not that we take great pleasure in painful interviews; spend a lot of time helping clients avoid or navigate such situations). 

There were many cringeworthy moments, and unforgettable quotes, from interviews of Elon Musk, X CEO Linda Yaccarino, several Ivy League universtiy presidents, and Oracle CEO Saffra Katz.

So check it out, we'd love to hear any feedback and hope you enjoy. And thanks, panel, for offering your insights.

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1 year ago
54 minutes 22 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Friends from Israeli Tech Speak out on the Conflict and Media

This is a special episode covering the situation in Israel, recorded one month after the terrible attack.

It is a time of tragedy and strong emotions; and it is not always clear how to best respond - how should companies communicate? Should they get politcial and react to anti-Israel sentiment?

We invited guests who work on the ground in the Israeli tech community, a Fusion PR partner and a client:

  • Yotam Gutman: cyber marketing and business development consultant
  • Shai Alani, VP marketing, Aporia

It was an intense, wide ranging and sometimes emotional discussion that sought answers to these questions:

  • Impact on lives, families and the tech community
  • How to best respond and communicate
  • What should the message be to employees, customers, investors and the world?
  • Thoughts on the US reaction

Also, Shai Alani spoke about an effort organized by Israeli marketing executives to bring stories to the media and counter anti-Israel narratives. If you want to find out more, and help, please contact Shai on LinkedIn.

Thanks, Shai and Yotam! Stay safe and strong.



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2 years ago
43 minutes 37 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Eric Yaverbaum on Crisis Management Lessons from the Latest Influencer Scandals

This episode features a chat with Eric Yaverbaum, CEO of ⁠Ericho Communications⁠ and author of Public Relations for Dummies and Leadership Secrets of the World's Most Successful CEOs.


He uses the latest influencer scandals (e.g., with Twitch star Kai Cenat and YouTuber Mr. Beast) as a lens to view the state and future of crisis management. Eric speaks at length about crisis strategy with newer social platforms such as TikTok and Twitch, and impications for crisis comms in the next six months to ten years and beyond.

It was a fun and interesting conversation. Eric shared examples, citing some famous names he has worked with (celebrities, influencers and brands). He shed light on these topics and others:

  • The new rules of crisis management
  • Unintended consequences of working with influencers
  • Advice on working with influencers
  • The importance of being prepared for a crisis, having a plan
  • Eric gets caught up in the Kai Cenat scrum in Union Square, NYC

Thanks, Eric, for joining and sharing your insight!


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2 years ago
32 minutes 12 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Stacey Ross Cohen on the Personal and Company Branding Connection

Host Bob Geller spoke with Stacey Ross Cohen recently about her new book, Brand Up (co-authored by Jason Shaffer and Alan Katzman), and the personal and company branding connection.

Stacey is an accomplished PR pro and entrepreneur who earned her stripes on Madison Avenue and at major TV networks before launching and growing her own agency, Co-Communications.  She is a frequent speaker at TedX and industry conferences.

We discussed the challenges and opportunities in personal branding, from the junior employee to the C-suite, covering these topics and others:

  • Why it’s important to get started early on in personal branding
  • The CEO as a brand asset
  • Countering personal branding misperceptions
  • The 3Ds of personal branding: discovery, development, and delivery
  • Magnetic content: why you need to be your own communications channel
  • How to encourage employees to advocate for the company brand
  • Should brands get political?
  • Managing the tension between personal branding and your work

Thanks for tuning in! And thank you, Stacey, for sharing your insights.

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2 years ago
38 minutes 35 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 18: Master Body Language to Increase the Power of Your Message, with Gregory Hartley

In this episode, PR D&D host Bob Geller interviews Gregory Hartley, a renowned body language expert and a panelist on the popular Behavior Panel YouTube channel. Gregory shares insights about human behavior gained from the battlefield and boardroom.  He got his start as an army interrogator and instructor and brought the expertise to the business world, where he has been advising execs about the art of mastering and reading body language.

It was a wide ranging discussion which covered these topics:

  • Myths and misperceptions (spoiler alert, there is no foolproof liar's "tell")
  • How to increase the power of your message
  • 5 kinds of body language to watch and improve
  • Why Trump's behavior is weird (and why Bill Clinton adapted his "illustrator" gestures)

We had a great conversation. Since body language is inherently visual, you may want to watch the video on video-enabled podcasts or our YouTube channel. Thanks for tuning in! And thank you, Gregory, for sharing your insights.


Here is The Behavior Panel website and a link to Gregory Hartley's books - he's written ten on the topic.


For more information or to suggest guests or topics, please email bob.geller@fusionpr.com

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2 years ago
35 minutes 16 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 17: How AI and ChatGPT are Transforming PR

Last time the podcast covered ChatGPT and its impact on PR, media and other fields. In this episode, we invited a panel of experts to discuss the adoption of LLM, generative, and other forms of AI in PR. Two vendors and a PR tech blogger spoke at length about challenges, opportunities and use cases.  Host Bob Geller moderated the session which, included

  • Frank Strong, CEO of Sword & the Script Media
  • Zach Cutler, Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman at Propel
  • Tressa Robbins, Vice President of Customer Onboarding, Burrelles

We covered these points and others:

  • PR tech vendor landscape, adoption of AI
  • AI to generate & analyze content, monitor media, and hone and target pitches
  • Challenges
    • Will AI take your job away?
    • Avoiding quality pitfalls, ensuring responsible usage 
  • Where are we going with AI in PR?
    • Current and emerging use cases

Thanks for tuning in! And thank you, panel, for sharing your insights with PR, Done & Doner.

For more information or to suggest guests or topics, please email bob.geller@fusionpr.com

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2 years ago
43 minutes 19 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 16: ChatGPT Roundtable - What are the applications and implications for PR and AI fields?

Is ChatGPT a threat or opportunity for creative and knowledge-driven fields like PR and journalism?

We invited two PR pros and  an AI wonk / entrepreneur to help us understand what is happening and where things are going.  Host Bob Geller moderated the discussion with these panelists:

  • Mark Prindle, Director, Fusion PR
  • Diana Bost, Director, Fusion PR
  • Stefano Pacifico, CEO and Co-founder of Epistemic AI, a company that uses AI for drug discovery

It was a lively and wide ranging conversation.  The participants covered these points and others:

  • Real-world PR use cases for ChatGPT today
  • Pitfalls of ChatGPT
  • State of AI, how far off is Artificial General Intelligence?
  • Impact on AI vendor landscape
  • How PR teams can responsibly harness its power
  • Other generative AI solutions

Please contact bob.geller@fusionpr.com to offer feedback, and suggest topics and podcast guests.  Thanks for tuning in!



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2 years ago
35 minutes 23 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 15 - Renée Warren on PR Attribution

PR, Done & Doner kicks off a new season with a discussion about achieving and proving great PR results.

Renée Warren of We Wild Women, an agency that helps female entrepreneurs turn vision into impact, shares her experiences over many campaigns involving startups and tech companies.   Host Bob Geller spoke with Renée about these topics:

  • The importance of measuring and connecting PR to business outcomes
  • Tech tools ranging from spreadsheets to commercial solutions
  • PR attribution: what it is, how to do track
  • Case studies

Renée is a dynamo, a great speaker, author, entrepreneur and a fellow podcaster.  You can read more about PR attribution in her article on the PRowly blog

https://prowly.com/magazine/pr-attribution/

About Renée Warren:

Renée Warren is an award-winning entrepreneur, inspirational speaker, author, and founder of We Wild Women, a platform that helps women-led businesses amplify their visibility. She’s also the host of the celebrated podcast, Into the Wild, a program that features curated interviews with women entrepreneurs and provides actionable advice to women who are launching or growing their own dream businesses.

Renée firmly believes that the best advice comes from someone who has successfully done it before. Her approach to PR comes from over 23 years of experience as an entrepreneur, running marketing and PR agencies, and being an unapologetic risk-taker.

When she's not crafting the ultimate pitch for her clients or podcasting, you can find Renée spending time with her family. In addition, she loves CrossFit, travel, and refining her drumming skills.

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2 years ago
35 minutes 50 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 14: Sh**t I Learned from Tech PR Podcasts (2022 recap)

This special episode of PR, Done & Doner features highlights from interviews over the past year.

It wasn't easy picking the best moments, because there were so many truly great guests covering important topics.  Here, we share insights that the hosts found to be interesting, informative and actionable, in snippets of 1-3 minutes each. We have combined experience of many decades of PR work - yet learned new and surprising things through these interviews.

So check it out. The podcast includes three groups of clips, about creating influence, executive leadership, and PR in tech segments, featuring the following speakers:

  • Kevin Maney, co-author of Playing Bigger, management consultant, top-tier journalist
  • Mark Traphagen, SEO guru and influencer
  • Robin Schaffer, analyst relations consultant
  • Chris Holscher, analyst relations consultant
  • Diego Pineda, thought leadership guru and author
  • Brette  Goldstein, executive coach and casting director
  • Daniel Nelson, crypto journalist
  • Mark Hollmer, insurtech journalist
  • Joseph Steinberg, cyebrsecurity influencer and top-tier contributor

There were many other great moments and speakers, feel free to go back and binge on our episodes.  We will be running other roundups, as it is impossible to get everything into one episode.

Thank you PR, Done & Doner fans - wishing you joyous holidays and a happy new year!

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2 years ago
28 minutes 21 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Episode 13: State of Insurtech Round Table

PR, Done and Doner sometimes takes a deep dive into the verticals that Fusion PR serves.  In this episode we explore the state of buzz, innovation and funding in insurtech, via a panel of experts:

  • David Gritz, co-founder of InsurTechNY, the largest such community in North America that connects carriers, investors and startups
  • Mark Hollmer, a veteran journalist who has covered the property/casualty insurance industry for more than a decade
  • Layla Atya, serial insurtech entrepreneur; serves as CEO of Quantumerge, the first and only transactional liability MGA for small deals; and founder and CEO of Zala Technology, an insurance developer for tech companies and tech developer for insurance companies

It was an informative conversation around these questions and others.

  • The state of Insurtech - what it is, why it matters, where is it today?
  • How have insurtechs been coping in light of reduced funding, and other economic stresses?
  • What are VCs looking for?
  • How is the playing field different today vs. a few years ago?
  • Which technologies are hot, what's next?
  • What's the number one tip for startup success?
  • What are the best PR tactics for insurtech startups?

Bios

Layla Atya

Before joining the insurance industry, Layla spent eight years in the Middle East, creating predictive models to understand behavior and the emergence of insurgencies in Iraq.  In 2016 Layla transitioned to insurance, which allowed her to combine her technology and legal expertise to improve the underwriting processes. After working for Victor Insurance for four years, she became the principal insurance consultant and the CEO of her first US-based company - Zala Technology. Zala was created to serve rising insurtech companies in the United States. In 2021 Layla founded an insurtech in the transactional liability space. Quantumerge officially became the first insurtech servicing small transactions in the United States.

David Gritz

David Gritz is an InsurTech community leader, public speaker, and InsurTech advisor. He has been featured in recognized Insurance media including Carrier Management, Digital Insurance, IIR, AM Best TV, and the Re/Image Podcast. David is the co-founder of InsurTech NY, the largest InsurTech community in the NY metro area. David also serves as a strategic advisor to high-growth InsurTechs to help them go from concept to scale. Previously David has served as the Director of Innovation for the Silicon Valley Insurance Accelerator (SVIA) and has led product at Zero, a behavioral safety focused InsurTech acquired by EverestRe. He holds a J.D. from the Mitchell Hamline School of Law and business and industrial engineering degrees from Lehigh University.

Mark Hollmer

Mark Hollmer is a veteran journalist who has covered the property/casualty insurance industry for more than a decade. For Key Media he helped launch two technology email newsletters focused on insurtech and mortgage fintech, respectively. At Wells Media, he wrote about the property/casualty insurance industry and co-edited a daily email newsletter for Carrier Management. He also launched a twice-monthly InsurTech newsletter in June 2019, under the Carrier Management umbrella. In addition, he helped plan and execute online InsurTech events for Wells, designing content and curating speakers. 

To contact Bob Geller about the podcast or features he can be reached at Bob.Geller@Fusionpr.com

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3 years ago
46 minutes 29 seconds

PR: Done & Doner
Hosted by Fusion PR executives, this podcast features top experts with advice that helps tech PR and marketing pros achieve the best results. You have questions? We have answers! Done, and doner.